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ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
While there have been a few posts on this topic, I do not believe this specific question has been answered, so here goes.
There is a great version of Falkenstein and Willard's Spirit Cabinet posted on youtube where they show the ties in detail. It's very different from Calvert's. They even tie cloths around the assistant's neck and wrists and nail them to a board behind her back. http://youtube.com/watch?v=BbPfK6K7LJE where could I learn how to do it like this? |
Mattillusion Regular user 170 Posts |
They released a set of videos a few years ago but I don't think they reveal the spirit cabinet specifically. It is an amazing routine.
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts |
They also sold their spirit cabinet commercially for a while. It was really quite expensive.. but came with (I think) personal instruction.
it's truely one of the best.. if not the best, spirit cabinet routines around... |
Marvello Inner circle It's amazing how little I can say in 1612 Posts |
Isn't Frances Willard also Michael Ammar's mother-in-law?
Never criticize someone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away from them and you will have their shoes.
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ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
It is my understanding that the version explained on their DVD is different than that depicted on youtube. I've ordered the DVD, but don't have it yet.
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aquamage New user 92 Posts |
I have the DVD and the spirit cabinet routine is shown...but not revealed. The trick revealed is their gypsy rope tie, which is a great routine and well worth the price of the DVD all by itself.
I have performed spirit cabinet routines at several different Halloween events and used a couple different presentations. I agree that the F&W version is one of the best...but I have found, in my experience, that cabinet routines that are that long really run the risk of losing audience interest. It is a LOT of time and set-up for a reasonably predictable series of events. Personally I LOVE that kind of stuff...but even when I have had great casts perfoming it really well, the audience reaction was moderate at best. In my opinion you can get just as much reaction from using a rope tie (Like Copperfield in his Barkley House routine)as from nailing a person to the boards. Lot less time for the set-up so the effect moves quicker. I feel that we, as magicians, are facinated by the longer version... it is technically more amazing and very historically accuarate as to how it was performed in the old spook shows and seances. Todays audiences, however, rarely have the patience to sit through such a long set-up. This is just my opinion....but it is based on many real-world performances. I am not saying don't do it....but the best audience reactions I have seen (for my routines and others I have watched) are for the shorter, streamlined versions. (and yes, Francis is Michaels Mother-in-law) |
Harry H Inner circle 1526 Posts |
The coat change is extremely impressive and indeed amazing.
Oh,I posted that video BTW. |
ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
Good job Harry H. Thanks.
You make a good point, Aquamage, but I can't help myself; I'm still dying to learn how they did that tie. There has got to be someone out there that knows! A book, a dvd, a private lesson...something. |
aquamage New user 92 Posts |
A good place to do some research are the Tarbell books. specifically volume 6 (spirit ties and vest turning), and volume 8 (mysteries of the seance). I'm not saying that these will neccessarily give you the specific routine....but study them and apply a bit of creative thought and you should get there. Hope this helps.
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ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
Btw, I'm making some progress in figuring this out using Burling Hull's book. See "Cotton Bandage Test" on p.24 if anyone wants to help. The description is a little lacking in detail on the tie and they use a metal ring screwed to a stake nailed to the floor instead of nailing cloths to a board.....
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Mark Holstein New user Houston, Texas 54 Posts |
Some one once said, "If you want to hide a magic secret, publish it. . .magicians do not read." This one is hidden in plain sight. . .read the wonderful book on Willard the Wizard by Bev Bergeron. Of course, the "secret" is in the presentation and performance.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts |
Mark, Is right on the money.
But it doesn't tell about Basketball backboards, does it Mark? Richard
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ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
Thanks for the tip. can't wait to read the book.
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ddhoudini New user Kansas City, MO 70 Posts |
Btw, here is a link to the book for anyone else interested: http://www.bevbergeron.com/willard.html
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Mark Holstein New user Houston, Texas 54 Posts |
Hey, Rich.
No, but I don't think Willard ever played the Colon H.S. See you in August my friend. |
Harry H Inner circle 1526 Posts |
I believe Anna Eva Fay(Spiritualist medium)popularised the cotton bandage tie.Also I think she is a distant relative of Francis Willard-possibly.
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