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baou1986 New user 73 Posts |
After seeing this card trick, I have no idea how to do it.
effect: magician does not touch the deck, the deck is borrowed from anyone. Then he asks spectator choose and card from the deck and remember it. Then the spectator is told to put the card in to deck. next he is told to shuffle the deck. Finally, he gives the deck to magician, the magician finds his card. . Does any one know this trick from which book or DVD? |
Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
Baou1986,
It appears to be a very basic effect and can be found most anywhere. No sleights involved, again a very basic card effect. Can probably be found in Mark Wilson's Course. Rennie
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
If we must obey the all conditions the OP mentioned, I can think of only one method. I can't think of other mehtod.
Hideo Kato P.S. Maybe I should have written 'one principle' because there are many methods to anable the function of that principle. |
wulfiesmith Inner circle Beverley, UK 1339 Posts |
Need more information on this routine ...
you tell it as if all the handling is done in the spectators hands, yet you say the spectator puts the card into the deck. This suggests that at some time the magician actually held the deck whilst the spectator returns the chosen card to it. If that is the case, any card worker will tell you the rest is a mere formality. Hope this helps - regards, wulfiesmith |
Ross W Inner circle UK 1779 Posts |
Crikey, Kato-san: you're doing better than me! To meet ALL the criteria specified?
1. Magician doesn't touch the borrowed deck, 2. Spectator selects a card and replaces it in the deck 3. Spectator shuffles as much as he likes 4. Magician find the card. That's a good trick! There's only one principle (a very common one) that springs to mind, but that would render no.3 very risky indeed. Baou1986: with 1 post, I'm guessing you're new to magic, or perhaps not even a magician? THink carefully: was that exactly what you saw? One part of magic is to persuade to to recall differently! |
trickytrav Veteran user 391 Posts |
I agree with Ross sometimes the recollection of a trick by spectators is way more than what actually happened but that is the beauty of magic.
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
Quote:
On 2008-02-18 09:47, trickytrav wrote: We see and hear what we WANT to , not necessarily what really happens. Rennie
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
Yes... The conditions really seem to be too fair... Remember the deck is borrowed...
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
I believe baou1986 may have missed some of the finer details.
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Koolmagic114 Veteran user 319 Posts |
I agree. Something is missing that is not being recalled. Wether in the presentation or the misdirection.
Eddy
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Medifro Inner circle Miami 1258 Posts |
One that comes to mind is, the Marlo Miracle ( I believe that's the name ), magician touches the deck only once, and he find the selection, and by the way, can be done while the deck is faced down. From shuffled borrowed deck.
Magician TOUCHES, not HANDLES!! Its darn subtle that no one notices it. Cardician book by Ed Marlo, best 14$ you'll spend in your life. ~ Feras |
erlandish Inner circle Vancouver, Canada 1254 Posts |
Only thing I can think of with that specific description is stooge. If the magician is genuinely able to keep track of the approximate location despite the shuffling, there's a method by Ray Kosby that might work...
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2196 Posts |
The effect could possibly be done with a stripper deck (although the handling would be tricky). Using a stooge would be an easier way to accomplish the effect. But as others have pointed out, perhaps the original poster is recalling the details slightly differently than as it was performed. Good magic, of course, wants you to forget the tiny little detail that made the effect work!
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
You borrow a Stripper Deck?
Hideo Kato |
EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2196 Posts |
Good point Hideo Kato, I missed the part about the borrowed deck, so that rules out using a stripper deck.
Maybe the original poster forgot to mention that the spectator folds the card in half before returning it to the deck? |
Adam Milestone Regular user 189 Posts |
I came up with a simple method to achive this same effect when I was in middle school, however it was only possible at under certain conditions. I noticed that if my hands were somewhat soiled and I touched a card in the deck and tried to fan them there was a noticeable separation in the fan. After studying the eating habits of my friends I saw that most ate there french fries with their right hand and burger with both, thus their right hand fingers would have grease on them while their left would usually be fairly clean. With my back to them I'd have them shuffle the deck and cut the cards asking them to take the card they cut to and replace it on either pile and place the other pile on top and shuffle once more. By faning or spreading the cards the separation of one card was instantly noticeable and I could get a break and square up or cut the cards at that point to find their card. most of the time I did it with my deck, but when the opportunity arose I of course used a borrowed deck. Don't know if that is what took place in your instance, but hope this helps.
Adam Day 7 |
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