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Maestro Special user 802 Posts |
I bought this deck a while ago, and it sort of sat around gathering dust. I thought the effect was pretty neat, but I find the handling a little bit suspicious and akward. I was just wondering if anybody here uses this deck on occasion. If so, do you have success with it?
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bekralik Inner circle Canada 1357 Posts |
>I thought the effect was pretty neat, but I
>find the handling a little bit suspicious >and akward. I was just wondering if >anybody here uses this deck on occasion. Yes, I love it. It's a simple and great effect. I started with the handling of accidentally-on-purpose finding the red card when I spread through the supposedly all blue-back deck. But now I prefer to have two decks and take the gaffed red-back card from a red deck, which really sinks in the fact that it could have been one of 52 cards. Place it on top, then have a spec pick any card face-up. I find this takes attention away from the awkwardness of how you remove the cards from the deck. Pull 'both' cards out together quickly, turn them over to show the matching faces and then the matching backs, and it's a miracle. Then I do a deck-switch and follow it with Altered by Bruce Bernstein (like Mastermind by Chris Kentworthy but with Bicycle backs). This time I do the effect face-down; I go back to the red deck to choose a another card and put it face-down on the table first (this kind of proves the first demonstration and they tend to only remember this much cleaner handling than in The Lone Stranger). They also remember seeing that they had a choice of 52 cards. I don't think most spectators think about the awkwardness you mentioned above (I believe you're referring to how you're supposed to pull the cards from the deck). If you do it nonchalantly and quickly, and fill that time with some patter and gesturing to give some delay and logic to why you don't just pull the cards out to begin with, I don't think it registers. Brian |
Maestro Special user 802 Posts |
Thanks for the ideas and tips, Bekralik. I agree with you that removing the card from a second deck makes this effect stronger. Maybe the excuse for some of the weird handelling could be that you are placing your prediction card on a different colored deck, ensuring that you can't do anything funny with it?
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bekralik Inner circle Canada 1357 Posts |
>Maybe the excuse for some of the weird
>handelling could be that you are placing >your prediction card on a different colored >deck, ensuring that you can't do anything >funny with it? Yeah, make a big deal about putting the other deck away so that you can't possibly change your prediction. While you're putting the deck away with both hands, you've got to have some place to put your prediction, and it's obviously unique from all of the other cards. Your card is now isolated, the only red card in a blue-backed deck. It will never leave their sight (if you have them select a card face-down) or it will never leave that spot. I had a free selection, they have a free selection. Here's the two cards, let's see what they are ... In this case, maybe having them select a card face-down is better. If they select a card face-up, you already know which card you selected so why are you acting like you don't know if they're a match or not? Or don't even look at which card you're pulling from the red deck, and then you can legitimately be surprised and play out the drama a bit. I haven't hit on a perfect routine yet; everytime I try it, I try something different, hoping to get a better reaction or eliminating some of the awkwardness. It's a great effect. Brian |
ChrisMagic52 Loyal user North Vancouver, Canada 216 Posts |
Honestly, I hate this trick. It's way to fussy to do and I find that laymen arn't really intrested in whats going on in the effect. If I want to do a matching card prediction trick in my routine, I do Mark Mason's 'Perfect' trick.
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bekralik Inner circle Canada 1357 Posts |
I find the revelation is great, when you cleanly reveal the blue and red backs on the cards, as well as the fact that you can hand them out for examination. Not so with 'Perfect'. And Lone Stranger is simpler to follow. I think finding an exact duplicate is stronger than finding the mate, personally.
'Perfect' is good as the majority of the deck is normal, but for that price, you can almost get an entirely gimmicked deck. Hey, if you can't show the cards cleanly anyhow, you may as well be totally gaffed and really lay it on thick without worry. Then again, a perfect force would work just the same, although you can't have spectators count down cleanly themselves. Brian |
ChrisMagic52 Loyal user North Vancouver, Canada 216 Posts |
I think the trick Perfect is just a gimmicky as Longe Stranger. Even though Lone Stranger can be handed out for examination, which makes it slightly better.
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braunmagic Veteran user 373 Posts |
This is a routine I developed to use with the Lone Stranger. I feel it adds alot to the effect, and it must, I never fail to make a sale when I demo this to a magician in my shop.
Introduce the blue backed card as the "chamelion card" say "some people think if I got the chameloin card near a red deck it would turn red, well it can only change on the face here watch". Have them freely touch the back of a card. Show that they match. Now turn the cards face down with a triplelift bringing the gimmick back into play. Now allow them to touch the back of a different card and again show that the chamelion card has changes to match. Once again return the cards with a triple lift. Now say "like a I said some people think the the chamelion card would change red," rub the gimmicked card onto the red deck and say "well it can change red but only on the face" turn the card over to reveal the a card with a a red back and a blue back but no face. Then hand the card out. In walk around situations I have a whole deck of the gimmicked cards and let the specataor keep the "chamelion card" in the odd double backed state. This works out great if later they come back to me and say here show them how this card changes, I just get out the lone stranger deck and proceed with the effect. Hope all that makes since, It really brings this trick to a new level. Brent Braun http://www.braunmagic.com |
ChrisMagic52 Loyal user North Vancouver, Canada 216 Posts |
Nice idea Bret, Thanx for sharing it.
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jamesmwood Regular user Buda, Texas (near Austin) 113 Posts |
I tried Brent Braun's Chameleon Card routine for the Lone Stranger Deck, which he posted 13 years ago in this thread. I thought the routine was great and a substantial improvement over the routine that comes with the deck. The routine that comes with the deck is fooling and strong -- but it's all over too quickly -- in about one minute -- and has less impact than the Chameleon Card routine.
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vincentmusician Loyal user Toronto 266 Posts |
Yes. Maybe pulling the odd coloured card from another deck makes it stronger, but I do not want to carry another deck and from experience, people who are drinking and talking just do not care that much. I know it is a quick effect, but that does not bother me. You can make it longer by just talking a bit more before the effect. Also, I like Strolling Magic effects that are not too long because I want to do other routines. I like to do three quick routines instead of one long one. Also, in my opinion, I would not keep giving out gimmicked cards. Some members of the audience may figure out what you are doing by reverse engineering the routine. I have had good reactions of the routine just as it is, short and sweet. I also find this is easier to do than the ID. What ever works for you. Cheers!
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