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magician8
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I don't kow about cheaters, but in a table, I feel pretty confident with my one handed erdnase shift, never failed me.
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On 2007-06-02 06:18, tommy wrote:
When you place the cards down to be cut, a good % of players not only cut but complete it. What ways are there of stoping them doing that do you guys know?
Its not like you could say, cut it into two packets, as a magician might.


The moment you place the deck in front of the cutter, make an arcing motion with your index finger indicating you want the deck cut. Look away halfway through this gesture, either to give attention to someone talking at the far end of the table or to declare that the blinds be put up. As the deck is cut, move to secure the bottom half before the cutter does and complete it yourself. Since you are looking away, it's not like your trying to be sneaky or anything. If you miss, feign surprise and try again later. It only takes a handful of pots to pay for all those lap dances. I prefer forcing the cut myself.

The last game I was in, it was 3 in the morning and we got down to 4 players. Everyone was dead tired and we ended up with 4 decks in play with everyone shuffling and cutting on their own deal. This was to speed up the play as everyone wanted to ramp up the action and either take it down or bust out. You could imagine...
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Well considering card rooms and even big money private games utilize the center-dealer format, nullifying the cut is a relatively simple matter.

Magicians seem unable to grasp the notion that cheats almost always work in crews, thus in the majority of cases they simply cut to a brief. The solo cheater running up hands for himself and having to deal with the cut is a rare occurrence and an antiquated situation.
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Well said, Z.
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Hey! You calling me old, Z?
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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On 2007-07-29 03:57, rawdawg wrote:
Hey! You calling me old, Z?


Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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You're lucky you're still only drinking milk, otherwise...
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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I agree! well said Mr.Z
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Rawdawg

Thanks I have just noticed your repply.

Poker is not the only game played for cash and I have seen a lot dough change hands in other games, yet guys always think poker when cheating is mentioned.

Kalooki is a game plyeyed with two packs and jokers and there is an hop in that game that I used over and over and won thousands with. I don't know what it's called but it's bold yet I never seen it fail. Since you guys don't play the game it's no use telling you the move.
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Well, your question was stated in such a way as to sound like only one deck was being used. Speaking of other games being played for cash, I used to play Gin Rummy with a bunch of ex-wards of the State at the local Gentleman's Club. It was mainly for fun but those guys were seriously good and those quarters added up quick. Lately, I've been frequenting Vietnamese Coffee shops and everyone there plays cards. I haven't asked what game they're playing but there's always cash spread all over the table. I'm going there this afternoon and will get nosy.

As far as your two pack plus joker hop, some people do two deck tricks and it might be of use to them...
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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Like backgammon it is played for various stakes but the game is played for high stakes by a lot people that I know. If this game is not played in the USA then I would strongly advise hustlers to learn it well and introduce it to the public.

http://www.rummyroyal.com/how_to_play/kaluki/demo.html


http://www.kalooki.co.uk/



Try thinking it through, really carefully.

I am sure you can work this one out if you concentrate it's an easy move.
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