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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
While I love watching a good muscle pass and plan to get it down, working on the muscle pass is not a priority right now. (Farther down the line is working on Curtis and Kainoa's finger tip muscle pass...ouch)
I had been practicing it a little every day (sorry folk, no blisters). However, I had not practiced the muscle pass in a few weeks. I took out a silver dollar today and was able to pop it up about 10-12 inches repeatedly, at least double what I was doing two weeks ago. ....In other words my muscle pass seems to get better without practice....LOL
Wes
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
That's true of many things: sports, music, a new language, etc. Sometimes, the best thing you can do is take a little time away. When you come back to it, BINGO! That's actually what happened to me with the faro shuffle, bending notes on the harmonica, and a number of other various skills.
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Rob Mencarini New user 56 Posts |
The fingertip pass is a timing thing. Once you learn it you will be able to do it with your eyes closed.
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Scott is right, sometimes , time a way is good. We tend to overpractice at times, actually end up developing more bad habits than good ones, a bit of time away and we often go back and get it easier, but not always, in the long run practice , practice , practice is what makes perfect.
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
Staying away is quite impossible for a guy like me. Been at it for years and still can't get my hands off my magic, be it cards and more so with coins. I found however, that when I put some quiet time in the form of analyzing, re analyzing and understanding my sleights for example, I get a better perspective on why and how they work. I get to see why certain sleights in my arsenal don't work for me and why some do. By going thru this process I only end up gaining more useful sleights and use them to their fullest potentials. Certainly its not rocket science , but I am inclined to think that it is indeed a science of sorts.
Quiet time, down time or short breaks can do good. Absence make the heart go fonder.... they say. In the mid 90's I took a 2 year break and when I returned to magic, it was never the same. It only got better. Sometimes we have to open ourselves to other things in order to trigger some creativity. The more time we spend on "natural" things the better we understand Naturalness. This is of course key to good magic. Re the muscle Pass, I remember practicing it for hours on end ever since I saw it from John Cornelius. I tried for years. Over 3 years ago I revisited the move. I made a commitment and so I tried to analyze the pass and explored the musculature and the limitations of my hand. In no time I was doing it and higher, stronger and more accurte than most. I take pride in my MP. The point that I'm driving at is not so much on how well I do it but how I got to do it. I am certainly no authority, but perhaps consider the "quiet time" I mentioned. Staying away with no practice can make the muscles forget. Oh I also do shadow coin sleights as well as cards sleights. My magician friends can attest to this. Just like a boxer would do shadow boxing..... I do the same with magic. I remember a senior magician from my circle say...." hey hijo.... you have been doing that french drop with an invisible coin the whole night...".... I said no I was practicing how I would really take a coin...and oh,, the one you just saw was a spider vanish. This was one night in the club meetings that I did "quiet time". No coins .... no cards.... but still practicing. With out the coin.... I was able to concentrate on the move... naturalness etc.... without being too conscious with the coin. Without the coin I was also far from being tempted to do other stuff with my coins other than the task at hand. I certainly hope.... I did not get off topic. I honestly feel this could be beneficial to any serious magician who would like to get better. Peace, Rannie
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
Good post Rannie. I don't think I could get away from coins at all, at least not for very long, but that "quiet time" sounds like a great idea.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
What I do is change focus for a while from coins to card for example currently I'm working on the Tamariz MD. after a few months on that coin magic will be fresh and things will have had time to fester in my head.
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coppertop103 New user Austin, TX 26 Posts |
In studying problem solving, psychologists refer to this as an "incubation period." It has been shown that problem solving is improved both when a problem is re-tackled spontaneously or when a conscious effort is made for a solution at a later date. Either way this shows that taking some time off allows you to process the problem without actively thinking about it. This also seems to be the trend with the muscle pass; I could barely get the coin to even squirt out of my palm for weeks on end. I had abandoned using the Cornelius line of, "...a coin that falls up" for the more appropriate "...a coin that gets painfully wedged into the flesh of my palm", and decided to let the idea of spontaneous vertical flight go by the wayside. A month later I picked up a half dollar and "pop", the coin smacked into my awaiting hand with such speed that I squealed like a 5-year-old girl... it was totally awesome.
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mitchb2 Elite user 455 Posts |
Muscle memory definitely works while you sleep.
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WoodRat Loyal user California 233 Posts |
Research shows that during deep sleep, your mind reorganizes and internalizes the things you have done during the day. It is especially productive to lightly review things just before you retire.
Learn something new everyday.
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
Quote:
On 2007-07-13 18:46, WoodRat wrote: Defraging of the mind?
Wes
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WoodRat Loyal user California 233 Posts |
Hmmm, in a manner of speaking, I suppose
Learn something new everyday.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Visualization is a cool concept.
These days I am practicing/rehearsing with my harp(harmonici) more than coins. Slow motion and practice without props is also helpful. Reminds me of the story of the student wanting to master the sword. Student asked the Master how long till he began to get the jest of things. 10 years said the master. He asked the master how long it would take if he practiced twice as long and hard. 20 years..said.... Harris
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I always shake my head when guys practices a move for several hours a day. I could see someone practicing their act that much, when they're learning it, but one move? That's a recipe for disaster - one tends to learn frustration, that way.
I usually run through things a few times in a day, then I give it a rest. I may not come back to it for a couple of weeks, if it's frustrating me. By then, my unconscious mind seems to sort out the details and I have a much easier time of it. I've even studied a list of one-liners and then picked up the props a couple weeks later, and began to do an entire presention for the effect that I'd never spoken before - went very smoothly and was completely memorized. |
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