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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1401 Posts |
Something has been playing on my concious.I have been using a Derren Brown Bit in my shows without permission.I feel like ****! If anyone seen his new show its the bit with the "pound note" Its got fantastic reactions but I'm taking it out. What a stupid/**** thing to do. I actually have a DVD of a show which I'm currently sending to a few respected members here on the Café to get their opinion on it (the bit is included).
I type this to hold my hands up and say I've been an ***, I shall stop being one as of now. I know their are greater problems facing the world but I wanted it to be known. I pride myself on writing my own script and playing my own character but still this is no excuse for using another man's premise without permission. A **** thing to do which I apoligise for. Pete Carroll |
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Pete
My respect for you grows every day! Tony |
Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
OK...I'll give you permission
Blame it on me.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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DJM Inner circle Israel 1681 Posts |
You feel like 4 stars?
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
What effect is that?
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coupcoupdaddy Inner circle 2466 Posts |
The one with guts, Chi. Pete, I really admire your courage and honesty in making this post.
Tom
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jasons_mind Loyal user 258 Posts |
I don't know ya Pete and I don't post here often, but good for you - that's a big step!
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Are there eleven more
Maybe derren nicked it from somewhere else too?
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E.C. Valdemar Veteran user Orange County, CA 301 Posts |
Bit with the "Pound Note"? Is that the one where someone hides a money in on of their hand?
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Quote:
On 2007-08-04 21:01, E.C. Valdimar wrote: If so, there are dozens of variations, several published. Choose one of those with your own presentation. I really like Charles Gauchi's Eye To Eye, and recently the Relic. The bill is in one hand, the other object in the other hand, in this way, both hands are holding something so they appear the same... The object in the hand effect is older than Derren's Great Great Grandfather, it is just the presentation and possibly the method that is his, not the effect. If this is the piece you are talking about. |
Marc Spelmann Special user London U.K. 666 Posts |
Tony is correct, it has been published many times in different forms, in Karl Fulves Self Working Mental Magic he discribes an effect called the nose knows which uses a tell to devine which hand holds the note or coin..
Guessing which hand holds an object is as old as the hills, (Ring Of Truth) and its earlier variations is exactly that. Derren popularised it with his pound coin demonstration but did not invent the effect. How he did it was his idea but the overall effect is not. My only problem is when people use his scripting line for line with his method, the method I believe he used is readily available so if you do the effect simply change the presentation. Fair play to you though for posting so honestly, hat off to you sir.. Spelmann
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markthorold Inner circle Shrunken heads atop 1942 Posts |
Possibly not what he's refering to . If it was the latest show then it would be getting an audience member to call a friend to obtain random numbers which in turn co-incide with the serial number on the note currently in use.
Regards Mark
E.O.I
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Marc Spelmann Special user London U.K. 666 Posts |
Aghh didn't think of that, you could be right...
Spelmann
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human Loyal user 297 Posts |
I want a DVD too
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markthorold Inner circle Shrunken heads atop 1942 Posts |
Have to admit that after the last televised series I was a bit put off going to the last show but boy was I wrong ..Derren at his best.
E.O.I
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mentalv Regular user 105 Posts |
Great way of thinking pete. I respect that..... quick question: what effects of derren brown's could you use in your show? Would you be able to use an effect like reminiscence in your show since he published it or would you need special permissin to use it?
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mindshrink Special user Delhi,India 916 Posts |
Is it always necessary to take permission or just inform the originator when you do an effect that is copyrighted by him?If I bought the DVD and do an effect is it necessary nto inform the originator even if I am using the same patter.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
As I see it:
If you bought a performance DVD, ethically you should not use any of it. Legally, it depends on the country you're in and their enforcement of copy write laws. If you bought a teaching DVD the material is open for use. If the author asked that you not use his/her performance, then it is an ethical decision. Tony |
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