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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
WOW
I do professor Ian's nightmare and that new twist makes it even more incredible. My friend Ian has the most fertle imagination ever.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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chidzuyo New user 37 Posts |
LOL. I remember performing PN once in front of a friend and he claimed that he knew how I did it. I just threw my ropes at him and said, "Try it yourself." He can't.
I realised many people think they know the secret (probably from watching those exposure shows) but ultimately they can't really remember anything. |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
It would suit me perfectly well if all of the rest of the magicians in the world dropped Professor's Nightmare from their shows. Please do!
It would make my keeping it in the show even smarter. (It is like football giving up the quarterback sneak because someone might have seen it before. It SCORES!) And I wish Magic Ian never talked magic to anybody but me. He is a treasure! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- OOPS! Did I expose too much? |
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Yes, it is over exposed. Please stop performing it, just as Bob suggested. Too many people have seen it. Don't do it anymore
Regards, Steve
"Impossible? Your audience will think so..." TM
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
Yeah people are tired of applauding and shouting Bravo. They want something new and different.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Corbett Inner circle Indiana 1161 Posts |
Yes, PN is over-exposed just like "pick a card, and find it" card tricks. Wonder why those card tricks don't go away? Routines are done often and maintain longevity for a reason...Audiences love them! This seems like a silly topic.
And BTW, why do magicians keep making things disappear and reappear? Talk about over-exposure. ct |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
This does sound like a Seinfeld bit, a bit?
In truth, the trick is not overexposed enough..it is just emulated a lot. There are just so many imitators of the effect like bad elvis impersonators. When the shops sell "my favorite rope trick" and kids sell Walmart clothes line at flea markets, then ya think maybe it is overexposed (at least in name and bad attempts). Personally, when we (collectively Café members) do the effect, it is really a different trick. And, even with the exposure, the mouths still open in amazement. I find this to be somewhat the case with Linking rings as well, where every kid had a set of Royal rings. When we do the rings, however, the comments are "my set is different". LOL
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Yes Ian
Like the young woman said to me "my husband and I really liked the one where you stretched the rope"
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Corbett Inner circle Indiana 1161 Posts |
I have to agree with you gentlemen. I don't make my living doing magic, but I have a pretty good act, and 9 out of 10 times people tell me they liked "the thing with the ropes" the best. Over-exposed or not, I'm not going to stop doing it.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
The exposure of such a great effect is discouraging, though. I was recently at a gathering and an 8 year old performed a poor and exposed version from a kids magic set he got for Christmas...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
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On 2008-12-30 09:22, mandarin wrote: Having run across that same situation, I politely ask if I might see the ropes, and proceed to make them all into one rope, then back again. Or I have taken the long and short and done an impromptu (not really) Sands routine. I look at exposure at that instance as an oportunity.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
That's an inspiring idea, Ian. I love PN but have been leaving it out recently. I think I would enjoy bringing it back, especially with some of your very creative ideas.
Here is an unsolicited request for info as to how I can purchase anything you wish to share on your rope work. Thanks in advance, Jim
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
I have used the Professor's Nightmare as a part of my Mongolian Pop-Knot routine for forty years. I find it goes over well for both children and adults in every performing situation. I have used it in front of 8,000 people when opening for Conway Twitty, and in living rooms at private parties. It plays big and packs small.
Here is a video of my routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMOkWUM7yI I think the Professor's Nightmare is only over-exposed because there are other magicians doing it... Please stop! Thanks. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
OK, Whit... I won't do it no more at all either.
OH, magicians... that reminded me of: A friend in Vegas bought a gaffed coin at a magic shop in a casino (he's not a magician). He showed me the trick. I took the coins and did some sleight of hand with them and fooled him badly. He then said, "Gee, I didn't know those coins could do THAT!" HAHAHAH FUN FUN FUN
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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bkp007 New user Longview, Texas 63 Posts |
I think I can offer some good insight on this subject:
I have been interested in magic for over 15 years, and have preformed semi professionally for 5 years. As a magician I can figure out lots of tricks, at least in part, just from knowledge of other ideas and principles. For example, the DL in card magic is like a key to pandoras box. Now, I'm not trying to brag because this is probably very common among most of the Café members, since we are magicians. I'm simply pointing out that its harder to fool a magician. However, I recently watched Paul Green's rope Routine, which seems to be very popular and I was floored! Until recently I had never really tried to learn any rope magic. While I knew the basic principle behind the cut and restored rope, I had NO idea how he did Professor's Nightmare. I've heard about this trick forever, but I would say it is definitely not over exposed. Being a magician who watches tons of performances, and not knowing how the PN works is good proof that this trick is not overexposed, but rather very popular, like the Ambitious Card. I really enjoyed being fooled so badly by such simple magic, and I can't wait to start performing it. Also, as many people have already said, much of the trick is how well it is presented. Again, we all know many people like to be fooled. |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
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On 2009-02-26 11:42, bkp007 wrote: Magicians are actually easier to fool. They have a preconceived notion as to how an effect works either by actually knowing or knowing the principle of the effect. I like to work on that assumption that the magician expects what he has always known to be the accepted method, therefore, any deviation or (deviant) method will fool them. The method can be simple just as long as the premise is accepted. When I fool the magicians with one of my moves, I bank on the fact that they become blind when you do a move they know and I therefore use that moment to do the deception.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Mike Carroll New user 22 Posts |
Magicians, that red, white and blue routine was very cute. Now, where'd I put that thinking cap...
I perform the nightmare for the kiddies and the older ones almost always have some idea of how it works (darn you, youtube!), so using it as part of a rope routine baffles them. They've seen the basic effect, but not most of the other things in the routine. I believe kids, especially teens, think of the nightmare as a puzzle, so adding other business makes it truly more magical. Unless you have the hands of a drunken Neville Brand like myself, but that's another story. |
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