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When calling an assistant from the audience, and then successfully reading their mind in a book test, it is possible some in the audience may suspect the assistant was a stooge. Here are a few possible ways to dispel that notion:

1) When choosing a volunteer, with your back to the crowd toss a ball into the audience and whoever catches it is your assistant. This makes it totally random, but the possible disadvantage is an unwilling or poor quality assistant.

2) Choose a willing, 'good quality' volunteer, but request that she bring her friend or husband onstage with her to support her 'in case she gets a bit shocked by this experiment.' This way not only do you get her amazed reaction when you succeed in reading her mind, (which in itself helps to dispel notions of a stooge), but then as she and her husband are walking off stage he will be gesturing to her asking her how she feels, what it was like, etc, and she will be shrugging her shoulders. and this is probably even more convincing, and is at least that much more dramatic.

3) Maybe I'm running when no one is chasing me, and maybe I'm thinking too much like a magician, because no one's ever made the accusation of 'stooge' when I've done this before, except when I'm mixing slapstick with mentalism and they call me 'Moe'.
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On 2007-09-25 23:42, todsky wrote:
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1) When choosing a volunteer, with your back to the crowd toss a ball into the audience and whoever catches it is your assistant. This makes it totally random, but the possible disadvantage is an unwilling or poor quality assistant.
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How about this:

If the audience member who catches it shows an unwillingness or other poor attitude in being a volunteer by his or her body language, without you skipping a beat, have them throw the ball behind them to someone else. At least this way you have a bit more control over who will participate, and at the same time, you make it look even more random. Smile

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Thank you for the tips Todsky.
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Lol good thinking! but how would you do it if you were doing it 4real?

oh I know! call a random person up to help! lol
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On 2007-09-25 23:42, todsky wrote:
When calling an assistant from the audience, and then successfully reading their mind in a book test, it is possible some in the audience may suspect the assistant was a stooge. Here are a few possible ways to dispel that notion:

1) When choosing a volunteer, with your back to the crowd toss a ball into the audience and whoever catches it is your assistant. This makes it totally random, but the possible disadvantage is an unwilling or poor quality assistant.

2) Choose a willing, 'good quality' volunteer, but request that she bring her friend or husband onstage with her to support her 'in case she gets a bit shocked by this experiment.' This way not only do you get her amazed reaction when you succeed in reading her mind, (which in itself helps to dispel notions of a stooge), but then as she and her husband are walking off stage he will be gesturing to her asking her how she feels, what it was like, etc, and she will be shrugging her shoulders. and this is probably even more convincing, and is at least that much more dramatic.

3) Maybe I'm running when no one is chasing me, and maybe I'm thinking too much like a magician, because no one's ever made the accusation of 'stooge' when I've done this before, except when I'm mixing slapstick with mentalism and they call me 'Moe'.


a few more

4.) Don't say "thank you Mommy" as you walk her off stage.

5.) Don't hand the participant a large wad of cash insight of the rest of the audience.

6.) Don't yell "Mindfreak" at the end of the bit.

7.) Don't call the particiant Larry, Moe, Shimp, or any variation of Joe.
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If you throw a ball, and it doesn't land on someone that looks very happy about it, ask them to throw it again. Then you can always ask if everyone happy about the choice, if the majority says it's ok. then you're off.

also if someone is being difficult, why not say something like,..no this isn't going to work with you I don't think, (judging by their reaction of either..yeah your right, or oh I want to carry on) you are either whipping them into line or allowing you to choose another one.

My view is that not every effect works on every spectator, that goes the same with almost anything. if there not looking very willing after getting up there, have a stare into their eyes and say..no I don't think this is going to work with you.

People who want to think its a stooge will think that no matter what, look at the discussion on here regarding some of Derren Brown's stuff, if it looks impossible crying stooge is the easiest way out
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On 2007-09-26 16:36, Tony Iacoviello wrote:


6.) Don't yell "Mindfreak" at the end of the bit.



Quote of the day!
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On 2007-09-26 16:36, Tony Iacoviello wrote:

a few more

4.) Don't say "thank you Mommy" as you walk her off stage.

5.) Don't hand the participant a large wad of cash insight of the rest of the audience.

6.) Don't yell "Mindfreak" at the end of the bit.

7.) Don't call the particiant Larry, Moe, Shimp, or any variation of Joe.


I'm taking notes, Tony.
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I had the 'ball toss' backfire on me once. They threw it right back at me.
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I perform mentalism on myself pretty often, usually dual reality effects. If you need any routines in case that happens again, shoot me a PM.

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