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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
A lot of people think mentalism and psychics are the same thing. I thought it was the same myself before I started mentalism. Some people even think magic deals with telling the future. Do people get you mixed up for being a psychic?
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Nope. I tell them up front that I am so there is no confusion.
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Logan Five Inner circle Northern California 1434 Posts |
I work mostly now as a reader, so I don't have that problem.
Self concept is destiny..
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
No matter what you tell people, you'll get some who label you as exactly what you've just told them you're not...
They'll fill in the blanks, or mis-join the dots - however their mind works... Theatre of the Mind 2 has a real life experience from Mr. Richardson that shows how powerful mentalism can be, and how dire the consequences too for certain audience members in desperate times...
I've asked to be banned
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Janus
Tuesday nights I work as a reader at the Mystery Lounge (The Boston area's longest running weekly magic venue). So there, I sometimes do have to say something. Tony |
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
After 4281 posts Mike, you're finally starting to ask the right questions.
Congratulations. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
There are some books from 1880s or thereabouts, you can even get them from amazon - that contain the wording "mentalism" - meant in that instance of improvements of the mind...
mix that with the spiritualism, and you get the hybrid of mentalism as a form of, well, lying to create wonder...then take that further and mix it with well meaning magicians and others, you have the foundations of classic mentalism as we know it... potted history according to me...however wrong I maybe...but I do own the books to prove it! I don't use emoticons...but if I did there would be a sly wink and possibly a knowing nod of sarcasm..
I've asked to be banned
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Logan Five Inner circle Northern California 1434 Posts |
Tony,
I can tell from reading your posts that your an experienced reader. Even though I have been out of performance mentalism for a long-time, I am slowly climbing my way back into that groove again. But, I have concerns about doing BOTH mentalism and readings. It's like what Brad Henderson wrote about in his book " The Dance "..if one of my sitter's suspects a " magical method "in something I am doing..then my credablity is gone with them. How do you blend the two different artforms? Rick
Self concept is destiny..
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
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On 2007-10-04 18:41, Janus109 wrote: VERY carefully.
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Jerry Mc doesn't know the difference.
He says Psychics talk to the dead on his TV interview.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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ALEXANDRE Inner circle 3024 Posts |
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HERE'S A SECRET ...
http://www.lybrary.com/mystic-alexandre-m-354.html |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
How about telling the TRUTH to create Wonder? that's my angle
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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ALEXANDRE Inner circle 3024 Posts |
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
- Oscar Wilde
HERE'S A SECRET ...
http://www.lybrary.com/mystic-alexandre-m-354.html |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
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On 2007-10-04 18:41, Janus109 wrote: Rick When I read, I read. No magical methods are used or needed. However, when Iperform as a mystery entertainer, I include small upbeat elements of reading into the performance. Tony |
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JasonLinett Loyal user Alexandria, VA 202 Posts |
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On 2007-10-01 13:31, abraxus wrote: Glad you brought that up. The passage in TOTM'2 is an amazing example. I currently abide by the no-claim disclaimer. I make no claims, so there is nothing to dis-claim. I do define "mentalist" to my audiences with the Ned Rutledge quote concerning using the five known senses, etc... So the most I give is admitting it's an illusion. I also call what I do "magic for the mind," so there you go. |
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
I've given up offering any explanation. I just let whatever they want to believe fill in the blanks. If someone asks if I'm psychic I simply ask them why that explanation in particular. But I've learned not to say anything for certain.
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Silvertongue Inner circle One day I will die leaving behind 2426 Posts |
Mentalism is the philosophy which asserts reality itself to be a mental phenomena, I too, being Buddhist hold these views, not I may add from a dogmatic understanding but one that has come from personal experiences, which I know can only be validated by myself, so is really no proof.
So with this is mind why should/or would I disclaim something I myself believe in. I believe everything is an illusion anyway. I am not an accomplished performer by far, but I am on that path and hopefully this path will lead me to touch many, many more peoples lives, as I have done in the past.
For as long as space exists,
And living beings remain in cyclic existence, For that long, may I too remain, to dispel the sufferings of the world. -Shantideva Engaging in the Conduct of a Bodhisattva |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
"People believe what they want to believe."
-Dr. David Hoy
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
People believe what other people tell them to believe, in the absence of a rational explanation or evidence to the contrary.
- entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I don't "believe" you, Entity.
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