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On 2007-12-17 17:19, Bill Ligon wrote:
I think you are right, Kotah. The unconscious mind has its own agenda. It brings us up short during the "joys of Yultide," and tells us, "Not so fast, fella. You have to face your sins first!" Or else it is the Elder Gods objecting to the celebrations.

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I think, but have no proof of it; my two cents; ghosts are connected to the specter of guilt/ sins. They haunt us during the conflicting joys of Yuletide.
They surface in our thoughts and dreams; mixing with bouts of depression. Bah humbug indeed!

I don't know how I missed the 2 posts from Bill and Kotah a year ago, but they deserve a lot of thought. I once asked a monastic friend by the name of Brother Digby (no kidding) if he "believed" in ghosts, specters, return visits from the departed. His answer was, in brief, that something as powerful as the human conscience cannot be supressed forever, and when it finally claws its way back to the consciousness, it can take surprising forms.
Thanks Bill and Kotah, all the Best for the holidays to all!
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Some outstanding ideas and input! Thank you one and all for sharing the skeletons in your Christmas closets.
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Interesting information on the tree of life; in Jewish folklore it's a common story that the staff of Moses was taken from the Tree of Life. Also neat is how frequently those stories parallel stories about the caduceus; both have a similar root. So, somewhere back there the tree of life was explored in the Mediterranean and Iran (the branch even makes a brief appearance in Gilgamesh as the "Plant of Heartbeat") Lots of neat materials

As for the subconscious trying to balance the "joy of the season." I don't agree, if you think about it, it's the joy of the season attempting to combat the darkness of winter. During the yuletide season the nights get long and traditionally agricultural communities have very little to do, leaving lots and lots of idle time in the dark; winter storytelling traditions in the form of ghost stories make lots of sense in my opinion given my understanding of history.
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Interesting information on the tree of life; in Jewish folklore it's a common story that the staff of Moses was taken from the Tree of Life. Also neat is how frequently those stories parallel stories about the caduceus; both have a similar root. So, somewhere back there the tree of life was explored in the Mediterranean and Iran (the branch even makes a brief appearance in Gilgamesh as the "Plant of Heartbeat") Lots of neat materials


What about a wand made from Yggdrasil...
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What about a wand made from Yggdrasil...


I'm not as up on my Northern Mythology as I'd like...but I could hazard a guess or two. Yggdrasil is the world tree, it also connects all worlds. It feeds from three pools, so a wand made from a branch of Yggdrasil would be capable of possessing one more more powers related to the powers of the wells, and possibly allow for travel between worlds (time travel, elves, various gods, ect...)

So there's the well of wisdom, well of fates, and the source of many rivers.

Anyway...back to topic...scary stories are awesome for xmas.
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The World Tree appears is shamanic lore as well, and is surprisingly widespread. In many places the shamanic journey involves an actual climbing (or descent) of a tree, pole, ladder, or the like.

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Anyway...back to topic...scary stories are awesome for xmas.


A wand made from the wood of the first X-mas tree ?
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Anyway...back to topic...scary stories are awesome for xmas.


Here's one I just posted on the Shadow Digest. Not exactly a ghost story but spooky:

Santa’s Little Secret.

Santa Claus was almost finished. He had travelled several times around the world, delivering his gifts to the many millions of children who inhabit the Earth.
He smiled as he thought about the children. They it was who sustained him through the night. He drew strength from each and every child whom he visited. It was a special strength that enabled him to begin his preparations for the next year immediately after each Christmas.
This year was no different, and now he was nearly done. He placed the toys into the pillowcase at the foot of the bed. Then he quietly moved to look at the child, innocently sleeping.
He gently uncovered the little boy’s head, leaned over and sank his teeth into the soft neck, drank his fill of blood, then refreshed, re-adjusted the bedding, rose up the chimney and flew away......

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Heh, cute. One of my favorite contemporary Christmas Ghost Stories is "Lost Boys" by Orson Scott Card. Easiest way to find it is to read it in Maps in a Mirror: The Short Fiction of Orson Scott Card
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Anyway...back to topic...scary stories are awesome for xmas.


Here's one I just posted on the Shadow Digest. Not exactly a ghost story but spooky:

Santa’s Little Secret.

Santa Claus was almost finished. He had travelled several times around the world, delivering his gifts to the many millions of children who inhabit the Earth.
He smiled as he thought about the children. They it was who sustained him through the night. He drew strength from each and every child whom he visited. It was a special strength that enabled him to begin his preparations for the next year immediately after each Christmas.
This year was no different, and now he was nearly done. He placed the toys into the pillowcase at the foot of the bed. Then he quietly moved to look at the child, innocently sleeping.
He gently uncovered the little boy’s head, leaned over and sank his teeth into the soft neck, drank his fill of blood, then refreshed, re-adjusted the bedding, rose up the chimney and flew away......

Leslie


That may work with a red foulard zombie routine. Is it yours?
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Anyway...back to topic...scary stories are awesome for xmas.


Here's one I just posted on the Shadow Digest. Not exactly a ghost story but spooky:

Santa’s Little Secret.

Santa Claus was almost finished. He had travelled several times around the world, delivering his gifts to the many millions of children who inhabit the Earth.
He smiled as he thought about the children. They it was who sustained him through the night. He drew strength from each and every child whom he visited. It was a special strength that enabled him to begin his preparations for the next year immediately after each Christmas.
This year was no different, and now he was nearly done. He placed the toys into the pillowcase at the foot of the bed. Then he quietly moved to look at the child, innocently sleeping.
He gently uncovered the little boy’s head, leaned over and sank his teeth into the soft neck, drank his fill of blood, then refreshed, re-adjusted the bedding, rose up the chimney and flew away......

Leslie


That may work with a red foulard zombie routine. Is it yours?


Yes it's a story I wrote in 2004. But feel free to interpret the tale. I like the red covered Zombie idea!

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You could also use the "Vampire Detector" effect to see if "boys & girls" in the audience have been visited by Santa.....
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