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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 18:56, gabelson wrote: PRETTY-PRETTY, SHINY-SHINY! Uh, I mean, me too! Were you saying something? :) Sean |
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RileyG Special user Las Vegas 840 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 18:56, gabelson wrote: So am I, that's why I now live in Las Vegas... |
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AlexSem New user 50 Posts |
Comparing children vs adults in terms of any single attribute is pointless I think. It's like comparing what's sweeter, an apple or a banana? They're just different fruits
My point was that OVERALL, children are less stuck in their head, and the less stuck in the head you are, the more you appreciate other things. Such as visual sights I realize people will argue this till their death, that THEIR kid loves mentalism so how can you say!!! All we're saying is that most children prefer sponge balls, because they're VISUAL! Adults love sponge balls as well, it's not an adult vs child thing Let's discuss some ethics instead I was deeply disturbed and put off by Derren Brown's Trick or Treat. I painfully sat through the first two with a sad disgusted look on my face. I chose not to even bother with the rest. Mean spirited, promoting phobias, tasteless trickery... That's the example a leading mentalist is setting? To use cheap scare tactics to earn a living? ... I especailly enjoy the bits where it said "He was happy to be part of the show." Getting sedated for 14 hours and then waking up in a different country, feeling helpless, disoriented and lost... What was he happy about? That he'll be on TV? lol |
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mindsynced Regular user 155 Posts |
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"Who's smarter than a 5-year-old?" Sorry...I'm tired Keith
Keith Brown
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mormonyoyoman Inner circle I dug 5,000 postholes, but I have only 2440 Posts |
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On 2008-01-02 20:50, AlexSem wrote: Who says they're not? *jeep! --Grandpa Chet
#ShareGoodness #ldsconf
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mormonyoyoman Inner circle I dug 5,000 postholes, but I have only 2440 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 18:56, gabelson wrote: I love doing the Disappearing Tigers when table-hopping at restaurants. *jeep! --Grandpa Chet
#ShareGoodness #ldsconf
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
AlexSem,
In my performing experience, I have found that children are DELIGHTED with Mentalism. In fact, I have created several mentalism experiences that were designed specifically with children in mind. There's a double-benefit to performing Mentalism for children: when their kids are entertained and having fun...so are the parents. Finally, to whoever said "Kids are stupider"? Now, THAT an ignorant statement! Best, Mick
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JohnWells Inner circle The Southern Wild 1791 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 22:38, Mick Ayres wrote: Thank you Mr. Ayers. I imagine you bring more experience in this particular area to the table than most any other Café member, so I appreciate your input. Of course, I agree 100%. |
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dunlop Loyal user Norwich, UK 201 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 22:38, Mick Ayres wrote: Here Mick says that he has created mentalism experiences with children in mind. I think that all is about that. Most mentalism presentations, where not initialy directed towards children, it is just a matter of presentation. Any effect can be adapted towards this kind of audience. And yes, kinds of statments as "Kinds are stupider" are just stupids. Nicolas. P.D: I've performed for childrens in many ocasions and they just love mentalism. |
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dunlop Loyal user Norwich, UK 201 Posts |
Oh, and sorry for my english....
I meant "Kids", not "Kinds" Nicolas |
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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts |
Dunlop
I agree with what you said here, but I also think the entertainment value is different with kids then adults. I perform for colleges and my show for that age group is totally different then my polar act I do for mixers. Your connect its all in the presentation.
No one said it would be easy, or did they?
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2008-01-03 22:38, Mick Ayres wrote: MIck, I agree and I'm reminded of my favorite quote from Keith Johnstone's book "IMPRO-Improvisation and the Theatre": "Many teachers think of children as immature adults. It might lead to better and more 'respectful' teaching, if we thought of adults as atrophied children." Keith Johnstone's comment continues: "Many 'well adjusted' adults are bitter, uncreative, frightened, unimaginative, and rather hostile people. Instead of assuming that they were born that way, or that's what being an adult entails, we might consider them as people damaged by their education and upbringing." This book is an amazing book on insights as to why many people have difficulty being creative in later life (and have difficulty improvising in theater settings) and how children seem to have an inate ability to be creative and to see the wonder in all things (such as the clouds and cloud shapes and flowers and fabric textures and bees buzzing, etc.) Unfortunately, I think that kids are taught (both inadvertently and deliberately) to not be creative and to "conform to the norm" and, by the time they reach adulthood, creatively speaking, most have metamorphized into "dead men walking". It is so interesting to read about adults (in improvisational theatre classes) being taught how to once again "think young" and become creative and to again gain the ability to improvise and let the creative juices once again begin to flow. Mike
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RileyG Special user Las Vegas 840 Posts |
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On 2008-01-07 03:04, Turk wrote: Excellent book... great improv in that der book... |
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CAROLINI Special user 607 Posts |
As a former magician I can tell you that children are a test of any performers talents. As a mentalist there are many effects that can be directed toward children and they will love it. For example, a DD using animal cards and Osterlind's ODDS setup. Or the Prophetic Fish (not sure of the name but I have used them) that move once they are placed on their open palm. P-PIKS Prediction cards work wonderfully with kids. The effect is done entirely in their hands. I have two entirely different acts and one of them is for children. Why miss out on a gig because of age. How do I practise? It's easy. I have 23 grandchildren who because of our relationship, make them twice as hard to entertain (fool).
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Nice post, Carolini.
I'm interested in what your grandchildrens' reactions are to the mentalism. Do they see it as being different to regular magic, or the same? Do they think it's a special psychic-type ability that you have? If/when they see through something you're trying out, does this affect their view of you or your "abilities" as a mentalist? - entity
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