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Magikrn Veteran user 333 Posts |
How do I make aluminum look older faster? My new chop cup is great and all, but with the routine I am planning I need the cup to look like it is medieval times old. Any suggestions on how to go about doing this.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
Giving aluminum a realistic antique patina is not nearly as easy as doing so with other metals. You might try using the same ammonia fuming method that's used for aging brass. There's also a chemical product called Aluma Black that will darken aluminum. Here's a link for a supplier, along with some links to other information on the web pertaining to giving aluminum an aged look:
http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/produc......did/5490 http://www.finishing.com/339/56.shtml http://www.groupsrv.com/science/about37613.html http://www.file8.net/post/30170/ http://www.whitechapel-ltd.com/tech/antique_brass.shtml Good luck! |
Magikrn Veteran user 333 Posts |
That made me laugh Frank.
Thanks for the info Donal. I will look into those sites tomorrow and see what I can do with this cup. |
rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
I had an aluminum set before. I'm not sure if you are willing to go all out on this... but I did use sandpaper just so the dirt and some fake patina I got from a Michael's store would seep in. Goodluck!
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Jason Fleming Veteran user Marooned, Hawaii 374 Posts |
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On 2008-01-04 01:39, Frank Starsini wrote: No kidding. |
BAH1313 Elite user Ohio 445 Posts |
Cover the cup in copper.
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jordanl Veteran user 325 Posts |
My 20+ year old Ravel Aluminum cups don't look very different from when they were new, Aluminum doesn't age much.
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Jason Fleming Veteran user Marooned, Hawaii 374 Posts |
Have you seen Tom Frank's set of working cups? I recognize that they are not made of aluminum, but you get the idea by going here.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Distressing something to look old verses crappy can be tricky! Franks suggestion IS a good one but could be elaborated by using a small ball peen hammer, small link chain for beating, sand paper as Rannie suggested and even a fine file and coarse steel wool. I'm not sure of what chemicals can be used to age alum but if it has a clear coat that would have to be stripped off in order for anything to effect the metal.
One other concern in beating up the cup would be how is the gimmick installed and will the beating dislodge or ruin the gaff. Good luck! Mick |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The first thing to do is to make sure there is no oil or grease in the metal. When metal is polished, sometimes the polishing compound imbeds itself into the metal and that will keep it from oxidizing. Also, make sure there is no lacquer on the cups. Remove all lacquer and degrease the cups.
Be careful when you degrease the cups. There are solvents that can damage aluminum. Make sure that whatever you use is suitable for aluminum. After you have done that, get some #000 steel wool and polish the cups with it. This will put a satin finish on the cups. Keep the cups away from salt water.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
You can buy some spray paint that will do the job. OR... wrap the outside with some thin leather.
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
Maybe you can just paint them to look like Pewter. That would be more authentic than aluminum.
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gadfly3d Special user 963 Posts |
Maybe I'm lazy but I would look for a different cup, and actually most chop cup routines can be done without a gimmicked cup.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
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On 2008-01-05 12:13, gadfly3d wrote: Also, while not unknown, aluminum was quite uncommon in medieval times. So getting some other cups might be his best option.
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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Athos Elite user NADO - Mind reader 481 Posts |
I hate aluminium cups, if you drop them or you miss a ''wand throught cup'' move you will dent them (Depending of the thickness and quality) And they are not very heavy.
I would not try this, because I don't know how it will end up, but try to use a perfumed candle, yes perfumed, and pass your cups over the flame. Perfumed candles gives a black tone burnt on metal. But when you touch it with your finger it's removed, I don't know if it works with aluminium. But after you could try putting acrylic fixatif on it so the black burnt stays. I haven't tried it, just thinking. ~Athos.
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