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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
Yeah, agreed it is difficult to figure out how to implement these biases. Jon's work should be interesting.
I've just received the latest edition of 'The Psychologist'. It is the BPS's in-house magazine. There is an interesting article suggesting that love itself is a kind of cognitive bias. It has been argued that love involves 'a positive illusion' - cognitive misconceptions or misunderstandings. It involves the idealization of one's partner, focusing only on their positive qualities, and imbueing them with attributes that they may not actually have. Such positve illusions may also be used to justify continuing a relationship that is danger of deteriorating, can bolster self-esteem and well-being but may produce a false sense of security. They also seem to have positive and negative consequences .... For example, the more one idealizes one's partner the less likely one is to use a condom ... It reminded me of what I was taught about Freud's views on love ... He thought love is based on the individual's past, rather than something created between two minds. We see the other person in ways that others cannot and may even dismiss. It is as if we project characteristics that originate in ourselves - we transfer some need or earlier experience into the other person. Sometimes we are able to recognize the irrational exaggerations - although it tends to come later. Once we've done some reality testing, and discovered what the person is really, truly like, it becomes much harder to maintain the projections. So for Freud, love was a 'problem' from which he hoped the individual would eventually recover! As Jimi Hendrix once sang ... 'Is this love ... or just confusion?'. Jimi and Siggy ... hard to figure out who was the greater genius. But just to be clear, I'm not saying that I think anyone who is in love must be deluded. I'm not sure if I agree with all I've just written. I'm just sharing it, that's all. Thanks guys.
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
If love is a delusion caused by a collection of biases, then it's a delusion I reckon everyone should experience as much as possible.
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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
Yes, I agree.
But then again, what is love anyway? I think infatuation is certainly to be avoided. I've done some silly things in the name of love. Going back to discussions of obedience, and linking in to the topic of love ... it is amazing the things a guy will do if asked by a pretty woman. He'll bend over backwards when he would not do so for others.
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
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On 2008-02-01 08:55, Energizer wrote: Love is a construct, but then again, so is a cake, and we can all enjoy a cake. Cake notwithstanding, this discussion of cognitive bias is excellent, and I wish I had come in early enough to add something more useful. Instead I will share this: I have a book called Universal Principles of Design, quite an academic tome on the psychological principles behind effective design (my day job). Almost all of the principles listed though are applicable to the development and performance of magic and especially mentalism. The book is a goldmine of performance refining ideas, effect structuring tips, methodological pointers and premise fuel. Here are just three examples to give you a flavour: • The Law of Pragnanz: the tendency to interpret ambiguous images as simple and complete versus complex and incomplete • Interference effect: a phenomenon in which mental processing is made slower and less accurate by competing mental processes (ie the stroop effect) • Hick's Law: the time it takes to make a decision increases as the number of alternatives increases It goes through affordance, cognitive dissonance, people's desire to impose closure on a un-closed idea, chunking, symmetry, layering, Ockham's razor, psychological constraint... loads of stuff. All you need to do is be able to translate from the language of design to the language of mentalism. So when they talk in terms of written communication, think spoken performance. When they say font, think tone of voice. When they reference the layout of a page, think of the structure of your act or effects. When they describe how you can make something more visible and obvious using X, think how you can structurally disguise your method (for example) by doing the opposite. Its a really interesting book, worth a look if you can get hold of a copy. Sorry if this is all a bit wooly, but it caught my eye. Phill
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M. H. Goodman Regular user Dublin, Republic of Ireland 169 Posts |
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On 2008-01-31 09:34, Poison wrote: Quote:
On 2008-02-01 09:31, Energizer wrote: Ergo, the best way to utilise a spectator’s natural psychological biases is to ensure that the spectator is male and that you’re an attractive female. Hmmm, not sure that I’m ready to book that sex change operation just yet (and even if I did become a woman, it’s highly doubtful that I’d be a pretty one). Maybe I should just give up now, and become Angela Funovits’ manager instead.
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jhard Regular user Dallas, TX 135 Posts |
Relating to a few posts back.......Summer of 1963, Downtown Dallas, Texas....noon on a Saturday at Douglas Magicland. Several magicians were having this very discussion on this topic. Tom Palmer bet me that he could detain a crowded city bus for at least 5 minutes and get away with it. I, foolishly, bet he couldn't. Tom picked up a clip board and pencil from the counter and we went out into the busy downtown noon rush. Tom positioned himself at a bus stop with his clipboard and soon a Dallas city bus approached and stopped. Acting official, Tom cut to the front of the line of people waiting to board, turned and gestured for them to wait. He boarded the bus and began "checking off" items on the clipboard with the pencil. He produced a tape measure from his pocket (Tom built all his own magic and was very good with a Shopsmith) and began measuring everything he could find on the bus, writing each measurement carefully on the clipboard. He had several people stand up while he measured the seats. He worked his way to the middle of the bus, then back again...finally asking the drivers name and badge number which he dutifuly wrote down. With that, he stepped off the bus, gestered the waiting line to go ahead and board, but writing each person's name down as they passed him. The last person boarded the bus, to saluted the driver and thanked him, and the bus left. Time....9 minutes. Just a clipboard and some confidence.
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
Genius! You'd think someone would have questioned what was going on after a while, wouldn't you?
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jhard Regular user Dallas, TX 135 Posts |
Tom Palmer was always dressed in a suit and tie and always looked official. He had a superior and commanding air about him and could produce a very intimidating look if needed. His job at that time was production director for WFAA-TV, so he was used to being in command. I'm sure that poor bus driver thought Tom was a high muckledemuck for the company. Tom would have been a much better mentalist than magician. Today, I'm sure he would have had to be armed with official looking documents, badges, hanging ID cards etc. in order to do what he did.
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
I'm deeply enmeshed in background reading for NMII at the moment, and yesterday I came across this. It's English philosopher Francis Bacon describing confirmation bias in his book "Novum Organum" back in 1620:
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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
Yes, that's a good quote. I've always liked a bit of bacon ... (sorry)
One bias that I want to mention is the tendency of people ... and this is probably familiar to everybody here ... the tendency ... wait for it ... it's the tendency ... you must know this one ... to choose objects towards the right side of an array of objects. In fact in psychology experiments, if you have a supermarket display of identical items, people tend to express a preference for those items on the right of the display, and will often provide some kind of confabulatory explanation as to why they do this. Banachek's PS covers this, but I think the reason why this is the case is ... some kind of neurological reason to do with handed-ness.
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
And then there is the boo-bah/kee-kee effect. Also known as the oobaloo/takati effect.
Imagine I am holding two objects, one which is a sharp, jagged object, rather like a piece of broken glass, and the other object is a smooth, curvacious ameaboid object. If I tell you one is called a boo-bah and the other is called a kee-kee and then ask you which is which, the vast majority will label the curvy thing as the boo-bah. Why? Not too sure ...
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
Why? It's called phonesthesia. There's quite a big section on it coming up in MN II, including examples of it's use in product naming. I go into the whys and wherefores of constructing words that exploit it in some depth. I posted my early thoughts to the Naked Mentalism forum at Talk Magic last year, but without a detailed explanation it it was somewhat stillborn.
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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
Cool! Your new project sounds Fab.
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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Energizer Special user A well known funeral palour 582 Posts |
Just came across another cognitive bias called 'The White Christmas effect'.
If you ask a group of people to simply close their eyes and listen to the record ‘White Chirstmas’, but without actually playing it, a small minority report hearing the record afterwards. Psychiatric patients who experience auditory hallucinations are particularly prone to this illusion. This is one piece of evidence, amongt others, that auditory hallucinators have trouble distinguishing between their thoughts and their perceptions. In other words they may have problems monitoring the source of their thoughts. I hope that is of interest to my bretheren.
"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want between selected lines" - W. Axl Rose, circa 1992.
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ipe Special user 513 Posts |
What would a real mindreader do?
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