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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
In a STAGE competition, is acceptable do a Mentalism Routine?
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
For a bunch of magicians? I probably wouldn't do that.
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C.Jakobsson Regular user Sweden 118 Posts |
Yes, it is acceptable. However, the judges will probably give you low points for technique and therefore you will have a hard time competing with for example manipulation.
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MatthewBlackwell Regular user England 140 Posts |
I'd be tempted to say in response to that 'only if the judges were ignorant'.
It's certainly possible to demonstrate excellent technique in mentalism, but it's considerably less obvious than manipulation, which even those without an in-depth understanding of the methodologies involved can appreciate is technically skillful. In answer to the question: yes, and my personal view is that it might make for a pleasant change. *However* I consider mentalism one of the hardest branches of our art to carry off on stage. It needs an exceptionally strong personality. You need to consider if, in a competitive environment, this would be your wisest choice of material. On the other hand, a competition can be a chance to deviate from normal material. If actually winning isn't too much of a concern, and it's more about the taking part - it might be worth giving it a go even if it might not normally be your 'thing', if you're feeling drawn to this. |
James Adamson Special user Deatsville - Holtville - Slapout, AL 945 Posts |
This is one of my pet peeves when it comes to competitions. Many competitions do not instruct the competitor in what they consider to be a close-up act, or a stage act.
I have seen a so called closeup act really be a parlor/stand-up act not a true closeup act. I have also seen what is definitely a parlor act being done as a Stage act, even some of them had closeup magic in them. Judging is so subjective and very biased. I have seen acts that where much more entertaining that lost to an act that was was not as entertaining. Comedy magic will get you killed by certain judges as they feel that there was not enough skill or actual magic in the act. I could see the same bias when it comes to mentalism, depending on what type of mentalism is presented, especially if it was math based mentalism. I have come to feel that winning is not the most important thing. The lessons learned thru competition is what will help you most in the long run.
Be remembered for performing what looks like MAGIC, not skill.
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mental4u New user 80 Posts |
James: You are right. There needs to be a clearer definition. I always consider the size of the audience in dictating what division of magic it is. 0-20 close up, 20-50 parlor, 50 -100 platform, 100+ stage. For years thimble,coin, and card manipulation acts have been considered stage acts. The reality is they have ZERO visibility on a large stage and should actually be considered parlor and in some cases close up. I think all most all thimble work is close up.
I have seen close up rooms that seat over 100 people. I feel sorry for the guy that does a real close up act, guaranteed 80% of the people will not have a clue as to what he is doing. A magician has to play the room, and that can make it difficult at a magic convention in which you are competing. Gregg Lancaster Mental Masterpieces College Station, Texas |
insight Inner circle 3095 Posts |
With the right conditions, it is okay.
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