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DanielCoyne Special user Western Massachussetts 544 Posts |
This thread is exactly what I needed. Thank you everyone.
I just got my first vanishing candle, and have been practicing and showing a few people...I can't believe how astonished people are! It's really such a beautiful and magical effect. Imagine my dismay when I dropped it this morning, and lost the wick! I'll be heading to Michaels this evening. : ) My 2 cents...I went into my local pharmacy and asked for a couple of pill bottles. I found one that is a perfect fit for the candle. Not sure if this is better or worse than just covering the tip, but thought I'd share my discovery anyway. Thanks again everyone. -Daniel |
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DaddyDoodle Loyal user Northern Hemisphere 277 Posts |
DanielCoyne - Great! Glad everyone's input has helped! This is why we're here!
mikeybionic - I haven't tried the candle experiment; however, I would think the wax would tend to cause difficulties with the operation of the vanishing candle.
Tally-ho! And Tuscarora too!
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Drew Manning Special user Dallas, Texas 913 Posts |
While I have never tried this myself, a friend of mine who used to do a lot of fire magic in his act used to take the cotton of a woman's tampon to replace the cotton in anything that used ligher fluid. He claims it holds longer and burns brighter.
I live my life for a layer of ice
Just like those poured by my bartender vice Any taste of vermouth would be really sublime, When you have a good martini time! -The Reverend Horton Heat |
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DeemoKevin New user 1 Post |
You might want to try replacing the wick with a real wick. They sell them at "Michaels" and "Joann's fabrics". Good luck, hope it works!
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DaddyDoodle Loyal user Northern Hemisphere 277 Posts |
Actually, the wick idea's a pretty good one!
Tally-ho! And Tuscarora too!
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erp1968 New user 7 Posts |
Regarding having the Fantasio candle lit for long. They are not meant to last long. The plastic will start to melt and eventually the socket will be loose and the metal will fall through. I have two with a bigger hole now. That is why the short appearing candles and multiplying candles are made out of metal.
When I do my routine with multiplying candles, after a minute, when I touch the upper side, the metal is very, very hot. |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
I use wire nuts over the candle tip to
keep the wick wet
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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DaddyDoodle Loyal user Northern Hemisphere 277 Posts |
Another nice one, Ian! Thanks!
Tally-ho! And Tuscarora too!
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Fantasy Knight Loyal user Toronto,Ontario,Canada 244 Posts |
I wanted to add this cause I seen noone had mentioned this... after having the same problem here with the candles I did some thinking,, and well this is what I came up with,, what makes a real candle burn so long...tada... wax... so all I do is carry some wax in a little metal container I found, wrapped it with cork and tape leaving the bottom open to melt it with a lighter then I dip my candle ends in before each show and they burn for as long as I need them too.
So feel free to give it a try. Your Welcome. Rick Anderson Oh and DREW,, advantage to that is... the string will work as a wick also????????
Grew up near one of the greatest minds in magic the late Stewart James, in a town called Wallaceburg just 15 mins from Courtright where James could be found, time and time again he would inspire me to always be creative and just love all magic.
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c4rlito New user 34 Posts |
Is lighter fluid or paraffin better for candles?
Best Regards,
Matthew McGurk British Magical Champion https://www.matthewmcgurk.com https://www.mymagiccourse.com/ |
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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
Intereesting info here
first I would add they used to sell candle caps however although no magic company is selling them you can get them from here http://www.stockcap.com/prod_detail.asp?id=104&cat=12 its the black one in the picture. I have used them for years now. as for burning longer -- WHY? they are not meant to burn longer then a few moments! you can destroy your candle by burning it longer. and if you want to have a candle to burn longer then just produce a REAL candle and light it. I use ronsonal fuel and it has never failed me. hope that helps sam ps put the fluid in the candles and then store them at your show upside down and then set them a few minutes before the show this allows all the fuel to drain to the top of the candle.
sam sandler- America's only full-time DEAF Illusionist
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Sam,
I've been using the stock caps too. But some of the ones I bought were too small. What size caps works best for you? Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
When I have been out of wick, I use the cotton from the inside of rope. Pull some strands. Stuff the
chamber with cotton, and use a double piece in the tip.
Illusionist, Illusionist consulting, product development, stage consultant, seasoned performer for over 35 years. Specializing in original effects. Highly opinionated, usually correct, and not afraid of jealous critics. I've been a puppet, a pirate, a pawn and a King. Free lance gynecologist.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
To help the evaporation problem, fold the wick in half, being the neck of the Fantasio Candle has a larger opening then the wick, this causes the fuel to evaporate more quickly. Fantasio does not say this directly, but his photos shows this method for replacing the wick.
Check out his "Helpful Tips" section on his web site. http://www.fantasio.com/home.html |
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mentalist.kin New user 58 Posts |
Well I use Dan Harlans Idea, I removed the basic container and glued the plastic to the real white candle top.
So it stays lighten and looks like a real thing! |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2012-08-25 19:20, mentalist.kin wrote: Well, now that opens a whole new set of accidents that can happen. Hot wax can burn you, if working over a rug can upset the owner because you are spilling wax on her carpet. I once did a show in a home, and when I lit the Fantssio Candle, and tilted it, the lady of the house screamed out, don't drip wax on my carpet. So I straightened out the candle and you know the rest. I thought it was funny, but you know the purpose of lighting the candle is to prove it is real, and from only a few feet away, she really thought it was very real. Nothing like setting this trick back 50 years, that is how the old paper vanishing candle worked, with a birthday candle stuck in the top. I believe I seen an India model has also gone back to the candle idea as well. In the end if it works, then use it! |
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tsolo New user NYC 61 Posts |
I've been experimenting with keeping the candle lit, and have an answer. Pull the cotton out of the candle. Cut a couple inches of craft store candle wick and insert it so there's just a teeny bit sticking out the top. Replace the cotton, squishing the wick underneath it. Add Ronsonol. The candle will burn for a while, with a flame small enough that it will not damage the plastic.
RIP Fantasio. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I have found Ronson not to be the best solution. Zippo has more oil in it and burns better. The down side is it produces more smoke while burning.
I set out to solve the problem and found it, Firefly Simply Pure Lamp Oil. This is smokeless and odorless, so it will not set off smoke alarms. Get it at www.fireflyfuel.com It takes a flame to light it, it does not work like lighter fluid. |
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