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C.W.G. Loyal user 275 Posts |
Hi Guys,
As some of you may know, I'm performing my first hypnosis stage show in November, and I'm really looking forward to it. But the one thing I'm slightly worried about is what IF someone freaks out on stage, as in, one of your routines accidentally sets off a repressed childhood memory that sends the subject into meltdown? This is something that I havent found in any of my stage hypnosis books or DVDs? No one seems to write about it. The nearest thing I have seen to it is "never let the subject see you panic as you will feed their panic". I am currently working with another hypnotist on his stage show and he is against me doing my show on the grounds of I don't have any clinical training... And to be honest and fair, I can see his point. But for many reasons, I cant do that particular course right now and it will be at least a couple of years before I can. So I'm putting out a question to all the pro hypnotists here, should I be doing the show without a clinical background? And also, I'd like to hear stories from you guys of what went wrong in your shows and what did you do to combat it? |
WillBox Regular user 146 Posts |
I don't understand why you have to go on a 'course' to learn about something - why not read some books about hypnotherapy (e.g. Kroger, Elman, Cheek and LeCron) so you can at least have some awareness.
Someone abreacting, if you know how to handle it, is actually a good opportunity. They have regressed into an emotional blockage. If you direct them to express it, (at an imagined figure of whoever it is directed at, or maybe just a situation) you could lift a real weight off their minds that has been lingering for perhaps most of their life. At this point your show could become something else entirely, live therapy, and the audience will be completely moved as this is like real magic - transforming someones life in the twinkling of an eye. Watch some of Gil Boynes case studies to see rapid Gestalt therapy in action, this will give you a good idea and at least some understanding. |
Anthony Jacquin Inner circle UK 2220 Posts |
Hi Finny,
I agree with Willbox to a degree. Although being aware of abreaction and knowing what to do is something you should know, most training courses do not go much further than books anyway. They let you know about the possibility of abreaction and give basic advise on bringing the person out of that situation calmly. As a therapist an abreaction is a great moment in that you know that if handled effetively you are about to make a leap forward in the therapy work. However if you are not a therapist then doing some impromptu therapy might not be such a good idea. Certainly not on stage. The best you can do is to recognise that the person having the abreation is still entirely suggestible. So give them some direct suggestions about how they will feel when they wake up, reassure them you will speak with them after the show, that they can leave these feelings and memories behind and come back to the room on your count feeling that a weight has been lifted, everything back to normal. Do a proper wake up off mic with them. Again tell them that you would like to speak to them after the show, show proper duty of care. Explain after the show in clear terms what happened, what an abreaction is and that it is nothing to worry about. Do not suggest they have issues and should seek therapy. If they have some issues they will probably recognize that anyway and recognize why such and such may have come up. Let them make their own decisions. Do not do therapy if you are out of your depth. For most fledgling hypnotists - whether they are therapists or stage hypnotists the first time they encounter an abreaction is a bit of a shock. Be prepared in the same way you should be prepared for other things that could happen. Having someone or even two people on stage as your crew helps. They can see things you cannot and if they are well versed in things like this too then even better. Another tip is to understand that you are responsible for the stage and safety. Jon Chase in his book about stage hypnosis 'Deeper and Deeper' which I recommend to you gives lots of advise in this regard. Simple stuff like ensuring the chairs are sturdy, ensuring the lighting rig is not too low and that the floor of the stage is safe are all things you cannot rely on others to be aware of. Get his book if you haven't already. Incidents or near misses I experienced in my early shows which were avoidable are firstly creating chaos on stage with lots of people doing different things resulting in one person tripping over another. No one was hurt but that is due to luck rather than stage control. I have encouraged people to jump around doing star jumps without noticing they have 5 inch heels on. Again no injuries but a twisted ankle was waiting to happen. Be in complete control of everyone on stage and recognise that they are suggestible. Have your stage clearly marked out with thick and visible tape with a decent bit of extra stage that is a dead zone. Give a suggestion in your early procedural instructions that no one will step over the line marked with tape or leave the stage unless you give permission to do so. One other thing to be aware of is 'collateral hypnosis'. This is apparently a reasonably common phenomenom but it has only occured once in my shows. By collateral I mean someone in the audience who has not even been on stage getting indirectly hypnotised. For them this can be disorientating at best and disturbing at worst - unless well managed by you. I appreciate the compliance/role play theorists will describe this as a cry for attention a need to show off but in my experience it is not. They are not just showing off. To one minute be in a room watching a show and the next to wake up with everyone around you looking concerned is most disconcerting. Again give them proper attention and know how to handle this situation. Once you have assembled your subjects on stage you can even give the suggestion to the audience that your sphere of influence does not reach beyond the stage and that no one else will be affected by hypnosis. Finally ensure that anyone who has come up on your stage even if dismissed before the real action began must take part in your wake up procedure. I could go on. In summary I do not think you need clinical training to do stage hypnosis but you do need to be aware of what can happen. This will allow you to refine your intro lecture and manage your stage in such a way that the chances of such incidents are massively reduced and that includes abreaction. Hope you find something of value in that. Good luck with your first show. I guarantee you will reflect on the massive amount you learnt from it. Anthony
Anthony Jacquin
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C.W.G. Loyal user 275 Posts |
Thanks guys,
That was some post Anthony, many thanks. As I say I've been at working on a hypnosis show with a friend of mine and we've literally done hundreds together but I've never seen anything serious go wrong. I have heard of what you call "collateral hypnosis" but never knew a name for it or seen it in person. The hypnotist I heard about it happen to actually brought that subject up on stage and took him into the show... Dunno how wise a move that was but it was meant to have worked out fine for him. Maybe we're after spotting a gap in the market here guys, a book for stage hypnotists who have no clinical training, on what to do in order to handle abreactions and stage safety etc. Many thanks for the advice guys. |
benqcd New user 2 Posts |
Anything brought on by suggestion can be removed by suggestion!
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Miraclemakers Special user INA 685 Posts |
I have one experience, my friend give suggestion to his client, to back to his past life (past life regretion).
My friend wants to find out his client past life. after the client back to his past, his barking like a dog (Guk..Guk...???) than my friend panic, because his client looks like dosn't understand what he says.....(if I be my friend at that time, I will panic too....) fortunatly, his client back to normal from trance, after a few minutes (with the way we don't know, just suddendly happen, his back talking normaly ....) I think we still need clinical knowledge, but not always with clinical course. just read and learn about clinical hypno and related book, that's enough... |
Nongard1 Special user 664 Posts |
Read Michael Yapkos book "Trancework" It will put you light years ahead of everyone else in your understanding of hypnosis.
THis is a clinical book. Sure you should buy my clinical course LOL But in reality, a stage hypnotist must know about HYPNOSIS not hypnotherapy....
Dr. Richard Nongard, Professional Hypnosis Training
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Miraclemakers Special user INA 685 Posts |
I agree with you Nongard1.....
a stage hypnotist must know about HYPNOSIS not hypnotherapy..... |
Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Thanks for that Ant!
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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