We were discussing it earlier: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15

Nothing there about it not working.

J

I meant the item itself.

I checked my cards kg2magic. They all work, Yes a few go thru the FREE square making 5 but that's how bingo works.

J

Ok I see this is pretty futile.
card # 7 winning numbers 8,24,37,54,71. Number 8 is not on any win sheet I have ever read in any book or description, and therefore this card is impossible to win in my set of Mark Wilson cards. Since these are mass produced, how can it be that no one else has the same issue???????

If you tell people they need 5 in a row, why would you automatically assume they will think they are a winner?

I can tell you from experience of watching someone do this they do not. a percentage of the room jumps up and the bewildered people sitting down say something and then stand up and join in.

But to my mind at that point in time it's too late.

Professional don't take chances like this. But feel free to confuse your audiences and miss out on truly great ovations. your choice.

More importantly as Timothy points out Every set in Corporate presentations work.
There are 10 layouts that are fine and another 6 that use the free square which you print yourself so, you can decide if you want to use the free square and waste time trying to describe what to do with the free square or simply add in a number before you print them and then everything is perfect and you have 16 working layouts.

But I see that next time when people ask why they don't work and then and only then bother to check their cards, and then formulate a theory based on what they think instead of what actually happens in the real world, I guess I'll just leave it alone and let you find out th hard way if your set is right or not.

Boy do I hope you don't have a guarantee on your performance.

Sorry that should read:
If you tell people they need 5 in a row, why would you automatically assume they will think they are a winner when they only have 4 squares crossed off?

http://www.ildado.com/bingo_rules.html

Couple of points...
Really, It doesn't take long to explain about the free square.
I've also at times used the "free" square space for their company logo.

I have the full set already set up in a publishing program
and it's very quick to add Company Name, slogan etc to the cards.

I also don't bother with the 5 letter word across the top.
Our Bingo cards don't have this anyway, so I eliminate, leaving
more options for the Slogan / Branding.

Hi Timothy
Nice to hear your input.
I found it easier, simpler and less confusing on an audience to fill in the number in the middle and use the top for a logo etc. This eliminates all ambiguity.

Like you I have my set in desktop publishing which makes it extremely powerful and flexible.

I realize it doesn't take much time to explain about the free square. Unnecessary patter and stage lags etc are a killer even for good acts. In the 30 seconds it takes to explain, it's one maybe two or three laughs or company plugs I missed out on, and they are far more valuable to me than the lost opportunity of explaining a free square.

Glad to hear it works well for you.

I use the Corporate Presentations set and gave away the Wilson set.(just keeping one set of cards) I've seen this in performance three times. The first time the audience was confused but it went over fairly well, but people didn't win.

The second time, the result was much the same.

The third time really made me wonder, so I checked the set of cards I kept and borrowed the call list.

One of the cards is definitely wrong and after watching it from the sidelines, I simply chose to eliminate as much ambiguity and problems that I could.

The result being very successful and never a problem. I also have a second person write the numbers on a white board in case people miss them. Never had to check a single card from someone jumping up early or missing out. Just doesn't happen this way.

One last point at one of the above performance, I also head the audience say everybody will win at the same time. It was only when I looked at the winning number sequences on Mark's set that I figured out why.

Looking at their neighbors cards and talking with their neighbor, it became obvious they were needing the same number. Then they looked at the neighbors card and low and behold all the numbers were the same.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it's rigged at that point in time.

One last point from me too

Not sure why Magic Bingo gets discussed in the "Penny" forum anyway

:)

Actually the winning numbers for Card #7 are: B-12, I-27, Free, O-70 and the last number G-54 which works.

Card 8: 9, 24, 68 and 54
Card 2: Same number of card 8, but different direction

Perhaps I am missing what doesn't work? But I have had Mark Wilson's Magic Bingo work every time. As long as we keep the final number to the final number.

Not saying anything about a better or not better version out there, just pointing out that on the Cards that I got from Mark Wilson, have a Winning Bingo.

RevJohn

I've used Mark's Magic Bingo for over two years, and gotten more cards from Nani including the newer one you can fold down and not use pencil on, they have always worked. If you got a bad batch of cards somehow, contact Nani, I'm sure she will correct it for you. If you don't read all the instructions and don't do the trick right, it won't work, but I've never had a problem with it.

Photius

It was not the cards, just a misunderstanding on how they were used.

Just re-read the instructions for the original set of cards which came with a VHS tape back in 2004.
The instructions say to have everyone mark the Free Square at the very start. Seems like this is a very easy and direct way to dispense with that square.
L. Zaslow

My agent video. Takes 30 secs to load so stay tuned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUJ4qlTO8so

J

I'm confused. So does Mark's version work or are there problems with it? Is there really a problem or is it just that some here don't understand that the middle free space counts as a covered spot on the card? How does Mark's version differ and compare from Lou's version? It's been said this version too has a problem, then it was said it didn't, more confusion. Could someone please set me straight as I really want to look into purchasing one of these. Thanks.

The free spot in bingo ALWAYS counts as a covered spot. There's no bingo # that says FREE.

I've performed this 3 times and worked every time.

J

Yes, I agree John, that's how Bingo has alwaysbeen played. So with that said I'm still confused as to if there are faulty cards in each of these ersions, and if someone could tell me the differences between these two versions? Reading this thread from the beginning is very confusing.