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Wes65
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008 12:55 pm
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Quote: On 2008-07-19 01:05, Jeff O wrote:
P.S.
After I posted this, I read the thread title. BIG DUH. Sorry about this.
[I like the moves, but what is the point of the routine? Not trying to be rude. I appreciate your skill. But whether it's a "jumpy coin" or something. I don't know what all the reaching out and stuff is. Is it that you're tired; a "tired routine"?
With sincerity and no sarcasm,
-Jeff]
I felt the point was obvious....if not the title certainly help clear it up.
Wes
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Wes65
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008 01:11 pm
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Quote: On 2008-07-18 16:04, Eric Jones wrote:
Better than ask us what WE as MAGICIANS think of something you're working on, why aren't you asking your AUDIENCES?????? Working your routines in front of live audiences, be it your family, friends or schoolmates, will truly give you a sense of what plays and what doesn't rather than posting it for OUR critique. Come back once you're getting the desired response from laymen, and then we can help you more in polishing the edges...
Quote: On 2007-04-09 12:19, Cody S. Fisher wrote:
When I first started doing close up magic in restaurants, it was because a friend of mine here in town had a constant gig and needed help one night. He was about 15 years older than me and had been doing magic full time for many years. I was always "killing him" with my card magic. He on the other hand was not good at cards...he was a “Svengali Deck” type of guy! Anyway, one day his restaurant was having a special event where they needed two magicians...so he invited me to perform there with him. This was my fist real exposure to performing for real people...and I thought I was going to really "show up" my friend.
That night I was doing card to wallet, unshuffled, folded card to card box, signed card to spleen!...ect. I was doing some crazy knuckle busting moves...............with little response! All night I was constantly haunted by the cheers and laughter coming from the tables where my friend was working. After a while it became really annoying to me...how could this be happening? I was WAY better than my friend with a deck of cards or even coins!
After our shift that night I looked in his close up case and it turns out that had been performing sponge bunnies, professor's nightmare, and some Svengali Deck routine! This was a BIG eye opening experience for me...it was at this point that I realized that my friend was a better magician (performer) than me. Sure I could fool the pants off him...but I wasn't "the performer" that he was. At first I was pretty mad...but luckily I came to my senses and ended up humbling myself to ask for some help. My friend who was a veteran of the restaurant biz was kind enough to show me the ropes and teach me about being an “entertainer that performs magic”.
Why did I say all this? Well I constantly get asked questions about how often to do practice…to be honest these days very little. As long as you know a one card force and a one card control you can do hundreds of tricks! I still love playing around with cards…and I still like watching new moves…but as I have stated in previous posts my emphasis these days is on the performance.
I think too many kids these days are turning into “move monkeys” like I used to be…luckily for me there was a turning point! The last convention I went to there were several kids in the lobby doing some amazing things with cards…some really incredible moves, sleights, and flourishes. As a magician I was blown away by their dexterity. I finally asked one of them to “show me a trick”…and boy did it take me back to my early days. There is a big difference between executing the necessary moves to accomplish a trick and “performing” a trick.
My advice to anyone starting off is to learn the basics. A good force and a good control will take you a long way. Also, don’t learn a move out of the context of a routine. I used to know all sorts of moves that I really had no use for. These days I only learn a new move if it is part of a routine that I want to perform. Finally once you have a basic mastery of standard moves…start working on your performing / presentation skills. The truth is it takes much more practice to be a better performer than it does to be a good technician.
I feel like I had the best of both words…I spent most of my youth practicing moves…and all of my adult life concentrating on the performance. The truth is you need to focus on BOTH to be successful in the real world!
I hope that helps…
Cody S. Fisher
Just some of the great advice found here at the Café.
Wes
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Pablo_Amira
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008 02:07 pm
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Thanks Wes.
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harris
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Harris Deutsch
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008 03:54 pm
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I liked the eyes and JW bit...I use a similar idea with either hand shadows or binoculars......(I use it to vanish two washers and then put them up as either glasses / or if single vanish..a monocle...(shades of Colonel Klink/Hogan's Heroes Sitcom....HOGAN!
I like it since it steps out of the box a bit..and doesn't use the "canned patter"
Harris
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Pablo_Amira
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008 06:26 pm
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Quote: On 2008-07-19 11:54, Harris wrote:
I liked the eyes and JW bit...I use a similar idea with either hand shadows or binoculars......(I use it to vanish two washers and then put them up as either glasses / or if single vanish..a monocle...(shades of Colonel Klink/Hogan's Heroes Sitcom....HOGAN!
I like it since it steps out of the box a bit..and doesn't use the "canned patter"
Harris
very cool idea Harris, as a binoculars jejeje!
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harris
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Harris Deutsch
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Posted: Jul 21, 2008 04:58 pm
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Pablo...
Danke...(Gracias) thanks...I am guessing others have thought of the idea as well.
Harris
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