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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2003-08-13 13:30, Pete Biro wrote: Pete, I guess the critical question is: "In what century did you read this book"? (grin) Mike
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TrickyRicky Inner circle TrickyRicky 1653 Posts |
Hello Pete.
You have the best suggestion that went by everyone, that is, to do the Haydn's routine with the Ninja rings. I have both, and I will certainly take your advise. Richard Lyn |
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robertwong Loyal user Calgary, Canada 212 Posts |
Pete:
I remember meeting you in Calgary during the taping of the Magic Palace with Dale Harney. Thanks for your input regarding this forum on the rings. I learned a lot from everyone and especially your comment on created your own routine! Thank you, Robert. :cowboy: |
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ClodAppleleft Regular user Manchester, NH 195 Posts |
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On 2003-08-23 05:33, Kjellstrom wrote: I got this video with the rings last week, and I am actually having fun with them. Both switches in the video are interesting, unfortunately for me, I can't use either one in my routine, BUT they have given me some ideas on how to do the switch. The thing I love about the McAbee rings is that you can hand them out at the end of your routine. When doing close-up work, I like effects where I am able to let the spectator examine the props at the end, and the McAbee rings will allow me to do just that, when I figure out my own switch. The video itself in describing how things are done is great! I read through the directions, but seeing the moves in the actual video really helped in the true understanding. Jeff
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wcb39 Regular user 172 Posts |
Would love to have an evaluation of this switching device for McAbee Rings created by Danish magician Per Helmark.
Thanks, Bill |
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
I saw Shoot do Ninja Rings live in sweden some weeks ago and it looked incredible. Wow, this is a real monster routine. This is one of the best ring routines I ever seen, great experience
After the show I got his business card, very nice one. Mats G. Kjellstrom http://www.mastermagic.info |
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
I love these rings but I think some magicians are using them the wrong way.
I would not use them for the same venue that I use 10” or 12” rings. There strength is in Close Up Table or Walk around. Easy to keep in jacket pocket and if I do not have a table for the “table Link” I just skip it. NOTE regarding your orig question: I got an extra single solid ring to swap out so now as an afterthought I remove the rings from my pocket at the end of the routine and let them be examined, very strong. |
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giochi Special user 502 Posts |
Wellington, how did you get this extra ring? Its a great idea, thanks
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
Paid for a second set, Was told that singles would be out but got tired of waiting.
NOTE: I start out with the Key in my pocket and take the sack and strap out. I drop the rings in a pile. Then I park them in my pocket as I put sack and strap away. Now I bring out Key and leave single so;id ring. Bob |
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EricHenning Loyal user Laurel, Maryland 218 Posts |
I use both the Ninja Rings and the Macabbee rings, for different shows and different reasons. The Ninja rings are very flashy eye candy, perfect for restaurant and strolling work. A great opener, and if you're in a hurry, a complete show by themselves. Also, the Ninja Rings play up in the air, so they are great for larger tables and party groups. Because other tables can see them, they frequently "billboard" the magic, generating requests from nearby tables for a visit from the magician.
The Macabbee Rings lend themselves to a quieter, almost dreamy presentation, and they are part of my Victorian parlor act. I wouldn't part with either set, but they are different tools in my tool kit, for different jobs. Hope this helps, Eric Henning |
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Alex Linian Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts |
I don't own the McAbee rings. I have the Ninja Rings (and video) and I recommend them.
However, I don't think one should learn the routine in the ninja rings video. You should watch it, and learn the moves, but I don't think one should learn the routine as a hole. I mean, what is the point of doing the same routine as someone else? After you learn the moves, you should think about putting together a routine that fits your performing style. Right now I'm working on a 3 ring routine using moves from The Ninja Rings Video. Another resource for the linking rings that I learned from was Richard Ross's book (I can't remember the name) and Jeff McBride's video Magic on Stage vol. 1. Just my $0.02, Alex
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
Ok, so it's 2010 and some 6 years after the last post in this thread. I was wondering what people still think about the original question, Ninja or Mcabee?
The hype for the Ninja Rings has long since died down, so does it still stand up? The Mcabees obviously do as they were first released in the 60s or 70s and are still available today. I like the Ninja Rings that Shoot performs, buy like all his magic it's his magic. I don't think anyone could perform any of his routines in the way he does them. To try and be a Shoot clone, like being any clone is destined for failure. Watching Shoots routine with the rings does remind me a little of Vernon's rings. If you've not seen this then find it on DVD, it's beautiful. I've never seen the Mcabee rings performed, the video on Martin's site isn't iPhone friendly, but I was wondering how well it would play for an intimate audience of 70. To me 70 is intimate. I like the idea of doing the rings with objects that are more familiar to the audience. The classic rings, Ninja or otherwise, just aren't me. Do you think the Mcabee's are too small for this type of venue? Thanks, Ros
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
Ros, the Mcabee rings are only 6 cm diameter, which seems too small for parlour visibility. Though I don't own them, it sounds like they're strictly for close-up (less than a dozen people).
I just watched the Nina Ring dvd for the first time, and it's a lovely routine. There are some great moves which I plan to put into my own parlour/close-up routine.
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mrgoat Regular user England 115 Posts |
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On 2003-05-29 07:49, Mark Raven wrote: Yeah, just get a deck of cards and invent your own routines. Don't ever try and learn anything from anyone else. That's crazy talk. |
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