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raywitko Special user western Pa 527 Posts |
We've headlined the sword basket in many of our shows. Matter of fact we used it when we won first place at the International Battle Of Magicians Years back. We performed it comediac style.
Ray
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I include fire with mine.
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
OK, I hate to go back to this word but....
"Presentation" ...and by presentation I don't mean fire or dancing or strobe lights, I mean a magically logical, theatrically sound, entertaining and deceptive routine. I use a custom made version of the folding Sommer's basket, and it is presented with a Old San Francisco Shanghai theme, as "The Chinatown Hamper". We do it on an oriental carpet to avoid the thought of a trap. I use it very close-up in a theatre that holds about three-dozen guests. And it gets a very strong response, because it's right under their noses, there is an alluring story, and we do the illusion at a good speed with real, sharp, wide swords. The basic routine done here in the West is pretty lane and gets old, if you've ever seen an Eastern Fakir version, it just rocks. Magically, Walt |
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chrusa Special user Connecticut 736 Posts |
"There was a time when I tried putting a Lipan Portable Asrah inside. After the basket routine, I do the Asrah moves then vanish, then she appears back in the basket."
Lou, would think this is kind of dangerous and might help a layperson answer any questions in their mind. How goos were the reactions? I am thinking a layman might think that they never left in the first place. Chris
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
The flavor of the routine is what makes it new for me, not the mere mechanics or the basic plot. My favorite versions to watch are the routines by Milbourne Christopher and by Rich Mariotta. Eli Kerr has an excellent routine, too.
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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
All good points.
Matt yes that is tubed out however the version I used was witht he 14" legs which make a huge difference. it is horrible performed on the grownd like th at. Rich you are right that a samll table with a small well built it woudl be great to create the ilusion the basket is smaller. I will employ that idea as It looks like I will add the sword basket. 2 reasons why. first I think I have a pretty good idea for a routine. 2nd I would like something else for my daughter to do when we have company over or at some smaller shows I take everynow and then. thanks again for all the ideas. sam
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aboycemagic Regular user 153 Posts |
I think the sword basket is all about presentation and making it your own , but I agree I think some of the prices of sword baskets are crazt
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magicelam Veteran user Tennessee 368 Posts |
Wow... that whole hockey stick video... painfully obvious the assistant was a'helpin'...
Mike
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Kyle^Ravin Inner circle I slammed my head against 1070 Posts |
I've been using the modern sword basket from Eastern Shaman for a long long time. The illusion has seen many shows and its a good way to end a stage magic show. I offer some of my clients the option of just one illusion in the show (if they don't have a big budget) and the sword basket is a good illusion. I am however bored of my current routine and I'm looking at ways to make the illusion look better. The main thing I agree with the rest above is the presentation is very very important and that is one thing I'm gonna get changed. Another factor is the aesthetics. I currently perform the illusion with a costume change but I really wanna add fire spikes to the illusion. Long story short, I do feel presentation is key in presenting the sword basket.
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mark2004 Loyal user UK 215 Posts |
Although I'm not fond of the basic sword basket as a pure illusion I'm persuaded it can be a good prop for certain types of routine. The following link is a great comedy presentation from Texas magician Dave King.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omlmEnX3N0U A lot of the entertainment in this is from the comedy rather than the magic, which is fine and valid as far as I'm concerned - audiences want entertainment and the specific way you entertain them is secondary to the main goal of ensuring they're entertained. I thought the change at the end was nice. Great comedy timing on the part of the assistant, who sadly isn't credited. |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2009-01-09 14:52, mark2004 wrote: That's one sweet presentation! |
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Steven True Special user Bonney Lake,WA 765 Posts |
I really liked that routine. I have seen the S/B done a lot and only a few times does it play really well. That routine is one that shows it playing rewally well. At least in my opinion. When I purchased my first illusions I thought about the Sword Basket but ended up going with a Temple Of Benares. Just my 2 cents. As has been stated a lot here is that big "P" word. Presentation is the key.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Steven is right. It really comes down to your personal style and what tou do tomake it fit you through your own creativity. Any illusion is just an illusion just as a trick is just a trick. The sword basket can be a wonderfulpiece of magic if placed in the right hands of someone willing to think poutside the box and work on a presentation that fits them and entertains their audiences.
Kyle
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
In an earlier post, someone compared inserting the swords side-to-side and top-to-side.
Since that post, I have compared several performances on the web, and I think I like the top-to-side version better. Maybe it's just my personal preference or my perspective as a magician, but the top-to-side insertion seems to more readily negate the possibility of a hiding place than the side-to-side one. I see the side-to-side version as having more "in-between" places to direct the swords, while the only conceivable solution for the top-to-side version is that the assistant is gone.
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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CMMAGIC Regular user Myrtle Beach , S.C. 145 Posts |
Illusions are only worth what you plan to get out of them. An illusion that's gonna sit around and collect dust and not generate more revenue for you or your show is useless. Buy what your going to get use out of !!
- Carl Michael - www.CarlMichaelMagic.com
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Loyal R Elite user Canada 417 Posts |
It's not my favorite illusion but I think for the price... It's a good investment!
Dare to Dream...
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barrypeters New user 39 Posts |
My 2 cents:
I'm still fairly new at magic, so I think I bring more of a spectator's viewpoint to the discussion. The first secret of illusions I learned of was the b***. I went to see Ted Outerbridge's magic Magical Moments in Time during the period, and it was his sword basket routine that blew me away. His presentation was excellent (medieval style where the peasant lady becomes the princess w/ a costume change to match Ted's) and it was so baffling to me b/c there seemed no place for her to hide. When I did learn the secret, I was like, "stupid Barry, stupid Barry". But I still enjoy it, b/c I think for the general audience, with a good presentation (like the Dave King one-that was excellent) it is just as good or better than origami. I add that last remark b/c, as a laymen, I didn't know that origami was supposed to be the cadillac of illusions. I have never been impressed by it like I was with the sword basket that day. |
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Cashetta Regular user Rehoboth Beach, DE 128 Posts |
Check out the dvd "The Magic of The Pendragons"
They cover the Hindu basket extensively and I think its terrific if you're considering it. |
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