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charlesgmorgan Regular user 199 Posts |
I wonder how many of you are aware that Google is going to try to put all published books on-line. This has the potential to be the biggest exposure of mentalism and magic secrets ever.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/books/......h&emc=th How many of you authors have opted out? Cheers ..... Charles |
Reuben Dunn Inner circle Has a purple ribbon wraped around my 1592 Posts |
As part of the class-action settlement, Google will pay $125 million to create a system under which customers will be charged for reading a copyrighted book, with the copyright holder and Google both taking percentages; copyright holders will also receive a flat fee for the initial scanning
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charlesgmorgan Regular user 199 Posts |
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On 2009-03-04 19:29, mindguy wrote: It is not so much the financial arrangements that concern me. Rather, I am worried about making our material even more readily accessible to the general public by means of a casual Google search. Cheers .... Charles |
Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts |
This sounds to scary to be true. I'd wager that Google won't be able to follow through with this plan without express consent of every living author or beneficiary of each book. Too many lawsuits would happen, otherwise.
But, I could be wrong again.
The secret of deception is in making the truth seem ridiculous.
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Eric Dittelman Regular user Astoria, NY 179 Posts |
The article states:
1. Copyright holders can opt out. 2. There will be a fee to read copyrighted material with portions going to the copyright holder and google. Therefore this only makes it an online bookstore with every possible book available (if they succeed). The people who will be searching google for magic secrets will then be the same ones who are searching for it in other media form. If they search on the internet and decide they want to pay the price, they're putting the effort and money into learning. As with new types of media, I suspect this will not affect our art in any drastic way. -Eric D. |
bugjack Inner circle New York, New York 1624 Posts |
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On 2009-03-05 00:18, Mike Ince wrote: You are wrong. This is actually a major and very interesting story with respect to the development of intellectual property law. In short, however, the Author's Guild has reached a class action settlement with Google which requires authors to "opt out" of the Google plan if they do not want their books digitized and searchable in this way. |
Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts |
That hardly seems fair. It SHOULD be Google's responsibility to contact the author to obtain permission, not the author's responsibility to contact Google in order to opt out.
I'm interested to see where this goes. I'd be surprised if the issue is finally settled. I work with lawyers every day. That class action settlement seems to have come about too easily.
The secret of deception is in making the truth seem ridiculous.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
I thought the point of a "copyright" was to give the holder the "right" to "copy" it?
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts |
This is my personal take on this:NOT TO WORRY!
Of course I would prefer this was not so...however...in the Grand Scheme it will not matter. Imagine I am going to open a 'specialized bookstore' in a major city like NYC.Every Mentalism book ever published would comprise the total content of the store.Imagine that I advertise the Grand Opening in all the major publications. Grand Opening day arrives,and there is a modest turnout.By the end of day one, there are only a few folks still sitting in the plush chairs..reading away. Don't you see? Specialized information is only of longterm interest to those that are TRULY vested in the subject. Curiousity seeker's always forget anything they read in short order....for it is of no 'inherent' interest to them. Those 'very' few that feel that they have discovered the 'Mother Load of Secret's'...you have shown that you have enough interest to keep you from leaving before closing time...so welcome aboard! Please just treat what you have learned with respect.Only a very small % of these will last.The remainder will also forget what they read in short order. See..nothing to worry about. There is nothing more boring to read about...or view than some subject you have no useful interest in. 'Artistic 19th Century Quilting' ...any takers? Happy trails. Rich |
Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
Many magicians, previous to this era, would probably be disgusted by the ease with which we access magic. And so many of this era will be dismayed by the accessibility of information in the future. Personally, I'm not so fussed. x
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
Shouldn't people have to OPT IN rather than being forced to OPT OUT?
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stempleton Inner circle 1443 Posts |
It is inevitable that the 'net is making it much easier for someone who has a casual interest in ANY subject to obtain that information. There's simply no way to stop it, and a waste of energy and priorities to do so. Ken Weber, in "Maximum Entertainment" addresses this issue indirectly by saying it is a waste of time to focus on these issues that are beyond our control Better to worry about the mediocre performer, who drags us all down. In essence, he says, our "competition" should be OURSELVES.
As technology advances, so too will availability of information. What I fear is that books will become as easily downloaded illegally as MP3's have become. But that's a fight for another day! |
stempleton Inner circle 1443 Posts |
It is inevitable that the 'net is making it much easier for someone who has a casual interest in ANY subject to obtain that information. There's simply no way to stop it, and a waste of energy and priorities to do so. Ken Weber, in "Maximum Entertainment" addresses this issue indirectly by saying it is a waste of time to focus on these issues that are beyond our control Better to worry about the mediocre performer, who drags us all down. In essence, he says, our "competition" should be OURSELVES.
As technology advances, so too will availability of information. What I fear is that books will become as easily downloaded illegally as MP3's have become. But that's a fight for another day! |
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