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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
So about a few weeks ago I bought my Roy Keuppers brand, f****** loonie for "Coin in Bottle".
I'm pretty confident with the way I'm practicing getting the coin setup and into the bottle, I just don't know how to get the coin out. I know there is many different methods of getting it out, but they all seem a little obvious, and I'm no star at shuttle passes or coin switches, although I could pull it off with some misdirection. This is a problem for me, since I want to practice the right way. Right know I'm looking into the method that Chris Ballinger from Magic Geek uses, however I think most of my performances will be stand up so once again it's a problem. Here's the link. Any advice on how to get the coin out would be great. http://www.magicgeek.com/coin-in-bottle-47.html |
The Wizard of Hearts Veteran user Tulsa, Oklahoma 323 Posts |
Keep working on those posts, Mike. Discussion of secrets (like this one) are to be discussed only in the "Secret sessions" section of the Magic Café. And for access to that, you need 50 legitimate posts. On the bright side, though, you're more than half-way there!
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Mike, I sent you a PM.
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts |
Uh, isn't the title of this section called "Trick coin trickery"? Shouldn't this whole section, along with "Gaffed & Funky" in the card section, be placed in "Secret sessions"? I don't see anything in Mike Ross' post that gives anything away except that some sort of trick coin is involved.
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MarkTirone Inner circle palming not 1 coin, but 1139 Posts |
OOOOOH NICE! I am pretty partial to what Joshua Jay does. Not sure if you have seen his book (see review), but he sticks his finger in the neck of the bottle and shows them that the coin can't come out, and then pulls it right through the neck.
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
You guys are right, but hey, I don't have 50 posts. Just don't rub it in.
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
Scott your method is genius. Just what I'm looking for.
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
Oh, and Mark, I do own Joshua Jay's book.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
I'm not convinced that we should take the coin out. Maybe we should claim that it got in there by magic, that we don't have a hammer handy to take it out and that we are afraid someone could get hurt by the broken glass. This underlines the impossibility. If we know how to get it out, maybe we were the ones responsible for getting it in.
Mark Mason is selling a nice gimmick to do the routine with a bottle locked by a bottle cap. Ingenious.
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TravisRobertson Regular user Cedar Rapids, IA USA 199 Posts |
If you are using a plastic bottle, why use a knife to cut the bottle open to get the coin out?
Put the coin in the bottle by what ever method you prefer. Show that the coin is bigger that the mouth of the bottle and that the only way for it to have gotten into the bottle is by magic. Cut the bottle open using a pocket knife and pull coin out of bottle. Do your favorite simple coin switch and then hand the coin and bottle out for examination.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
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On 2009-03-27 21:13, Mike Ross wrote: I appreciate that, Mike, only it's not my method--it is John Bannon's as far as I know. The manuscript I sent you is my ROUTINE, but the sleights used were created by others.
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CasualSoul Special user Edmonton, Canada 542 Posts |
I perform it similar to that magicgeek video except I shake the bottle upside down over their hands. If you time the shake & release a little better than Chris, it actually looks like the coin falls straight out of the bottle and into their hands. If they're not already checking out the coin, I tell them to do so and then do the dirty work in one smooth movement with my pinky right in front of them while they are distracted with the coin (just make sure you don't use a bottle that has too long of a neck......been there, done that hahaha). After they've examined the coin, I hand them the bottle. My way uses a borrowed coin, a simple switch, misdirection, and timing. It's a slightly more difficult, but I think it hits harder using a borrowed coin and having it fall straight into their hands.
You can easily do it the way Chris does if you have only one band on the F****** coin. You simply need to shake it hard enough and on usually the first or second try it will actually come straight out on its own. As the Loonie is bigger, it's a little harder to do than the quarter, but it will still work. The problem with doing it this way is that it makes it harder to switch it out before they want to examine it. There's a LOT of heat on that quarter when it hits the table. Chris sort of gets around this with the premise that it was his coin to begin with, so he is simply taking it back and putting it back in his pocket. Personally, I think this approach looks like you are trying to hide something. One thing I really like about Chris's version though is how he turns it into a bit more of a routine, rather that a single trick, by doing it that second time with the striking vanish. I think Cyril was the first to ever do it that way, but using the striking vanish for the second penetration is technically a little easier than doing it for the first. If you've ever tried to do it Cyril's way you know what I mean. I actually stopped doing the striking vanish version after a couple embarrassing incidents, but I might start doing it again after seeing this video. Thanks for posting that Mike.
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