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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
WDI Magic - Ray Pierce, one of the greatest under-rated pros out there working it! It's great to have your experienced viewpoint shared here with us. I hope that you will continue to provide us with your experienced opinions and observations.
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voodoo Regular user Indonesia 163 Posts |
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On 2009-03-29 00:48, Mad Jack wrote: Well I guess that is the answer why David Coppefield is the best illusionist (as I know)... Because if it easy then everyone will do it
"When Illusions Become Reality"
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2607 Posts |
Hey Chris!
Geez, I thought I could say anything I wanted because no one knew me! Thank you very much, though. I just try and keep working on the same old stuff, it just hurts more now!
Ray Pierce
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
I agree it ain't easy...
But that's the fun... Most of the time...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2009-04-02 19:54, adam christopher wrote: I could never seem to get that dedicated. I drink craft beers like I'm the designated driver. Most days, all I want to drink is iced tea. |
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haywire Special user Philadelphia 760 Posts |
"I'm a delusionist. I'm convinced that someday, all the "cool" props I've collected over the years will make me money. My luck it will be at a yard sale after I'm dead..."
that's so funny... Actually, I have seen what happens when a magician with a lot of stuff dies, usually the vultures come out contacting the widow. Steven |
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Senor Rai Loyal user 277 Posts |
Hi Steven, just got back a few days ago. PM me! Rai
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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
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On 2009-04-04 01:32, WDI Magic wrote: ....a picture speaks a thousand words! |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
As I was sitting in the desert getting in touch with my inner illusionist I was struck by something. Ist. Ever ponder that? My brother was an artist, meaning one that created art. He would then sell his art to individuals to display or just to collect, they might end up in museums where people could pay to see his art along with the art of others. Here is the question, does the simple display of his art make the displayer an artist? Does that act of hanging up a painting even in front of a public audience put the hanger on an equal level as the person who created the actual piece? I say no! So I am now of the opinion the illusionist is the creator of the items used, guys like Jim Steinmeyer, while the performer is just that, a performing artist but by no means an illusionist. I don't consider adding verbage to a performance or convincing a teen age girl to dance around said prop to be enough to make one an illusionist.
So, if you want to be an illusionist you will have to be the designer of the actual illusion, perhaps the building, you may even perform it, but it is the design that is what makes one an illusionist. Anyone calling themselves an 'illusionist' who just stages the presentation is like a wrench monkey claiming to be an automotive engineer...they are not the same. I don't know what name to use now for the non illusionist illusionist, I'm leaning toward "Boxician". |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Santa, that's just wrong.
Well, most of it...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2009-04-04 08:27, haywire wrote: Vultures? What, is the magic supposed to be put in storage, given away or thrown away? Best it went in the hands of other magicians, yes? It's not like they were waiting for them to die. (that would be horrible).. Doug Lippert
Douglas Lippert
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
I think "vultures" refers to those who are looking for a quick "swindle" at the expense of a grieving family member who knows absolutely nothing about what he is selling. If you found a grieving widow selling a Wellington Origami for $200, would you buy it rather than advise her of the true value? If so, you are a "vulture".
Several years ago at a huge toy train show, there was just such a lady and her daughter, selling the hesband's/father's Lionel train collection. It was a BEAUTIFUL collection, with a huge number of pristine, highly-desirable pieces, most in their original boxes. The prices seemed much too low, so I advised her to cover the table, and I would find someone who could help her price them more realistically. There was such a gentleman in the group, and the lady ended up getting nearly twenty times the price for the collection that she would have realized originally. The buyers got good deals, and she made money. Since she knew nothing about the trains, she had looked at the prices on the boxes, and cut it by 50 percent, "since the trains were old". The reactions - the potential buyers followed me and the "pricer" around most of the day, "cussing us like dogs", and telling us how we should have stayed out of something that was clearly none of our business. VULTURES!
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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Drew Manning Special user Dallas, Texas 913 Posts |
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On 2009-04-05 03:23, Doug Lippert wrote: This is how & why I accquired almost all of the pieces in my antique collection. An old man who knew what he was selling told me he would rather have his old props go to someone who would at least appreciate having them and know what they were. He told me he was affraid his kids would just throw them out or sell them at a yard sale when he died, so he sold them to me at far less than they were worth, but more than yardsales prices.
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Just like those poured by my bartender vice Any taste of vermouth would be really sublime, When you have a good martini time! -The Reverend Horton Heat |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Wished I had met him.
Sounds like a great guy.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Mad Jack Regular user 195 Posts |
I fellow performer recommended this thread to a close-up magician that is considering a career in illusions (thanks for that endorsement by the way...) And I had totally forgotten that I had written it. After reading it again, I have to say that it seems "Jaded" and not 100% accurate anymore. I must have been in a bad mood or "down" on illusions at the time. I would have to say now that it is only about 97% accurate! LOL...
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Marshall Thornside Inner circle chicago 2016 Posts |
It's harder being the Assistant then an Illusionist.
Assistants make the Magician look better to get the better jobs.
you will remember my name
World's Youngest Illusionista 7th greatest pianist in the world Go Red For Women and Stroke Ambassador www.mai-ling.net |
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts |
I'm overwhelmed by the artistic integrity
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