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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
What are their names. I will try and find a video clipping of them stomping on a balloon.
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
Actually, you're not killing it...as Hobson's routine goes, you say, "play dead", it rolls out of your hand and lands on the floor and as an aside, you step on it. Then the line, "Doggone..." comes in.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Doesn't it come back to life in a lunch sack?
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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randyburtis Inner circle 1256 Posts |
Yes it does, but with little kids, too much time and impact has happened to not make it a sad thing for them, for adults the line kills(heh )
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55john55 Regular user 137 Posts |
First, as described, I think it is a very bad idea to do that. Second, once it is done a couple of options are to quietly talk to one or more of the people doing it, after they are done with their show or contact the manager of the venue and express your thoughts. You now have the feedback of other people in the magic community to support your view. When I was younger I did a few things that weren't terrible but I regret doing. I wish someone had come to me and said something. I would have caught on quicker than I did.
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
You do eventually bring it back to life through "mouth to balloon" CPR, so all's made well. No sadder than vanishing a girl as long as you bring her back.
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zimsalabim Special user Orlando Floirda USA 520 Posts |
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On 2009-08-18 15:54, Mr. Woolery wrote: Actualy a lot funnier as well to stare at it. ABut I gotta say the word "Murdered" is rather strong here don't ya think? Z
Joe Zimmer
"The Second Greatest Magician in the World" Who is the Greatest? Everybody else! Borrowed with respect from the late Great Eddie Fechter Owner of the Forks Hotel Zimsalabim Orlando Florida |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
Okay, perhaps murder is overly strong. My 7-year-old daughter would be traumatized by this. She would actually see it as a form of murder. Many kids do see these things as real in a way that adults no longer understand.
Perhaps I can ammend slightly by saying that a kid whose new toy was immediately destroyed will see it as similar to killing an animal. There is a strong emotional attachment that occurs right away and the animal shape makes it like a new stuffed animal. My daughter will sit and talk to her stuffed kitties and also to balloon animals. I don't get it, but I do think it is worth remembering that kids see things differently than adults. Things that matter to us (getting places on time) are meaningless to them. Things that we see as trivial (a popped balloon) can ruin their day. But yeah, I think staring at it as it "plays dead" is a lot funnier than popping it. As I have thought about this, I believe it makes the silliness of a balloon animal even better. And it also gives the kids a slightly funnier attachment to their new toy as they see that adults can play with it, too. Anyway, that's what I think. -Patrick |
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Ken Dumm Inner circle 1239 Posts |
I've done this routine many times, but you have to read your volunteer. If they are shy and seem to be sensitive to loud noises (balloon popping) and you think the play dead gag is too much, don't do the routine. Do a hat tear, or give away an inflatable wand.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
In Miami (Bayside), many years ago, I saw a clown make a balloon dog which then became animated, sat up, played dead, etc, all on its own. (He was using IT). His routine was absolutely fantastic, and there was no need for him to kill the dog! It remains one of the best IT routines I've ever seen, and he was performing outside.
Surely, if you use balloon animals in your show, you'd have several different endings to accommodate those times when "killing" the dog might be over-the-top? Potty. |
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revlovejoy Special user Pennsylvania 765 Posts |
I just saw this thread at the top, and had to read it all. In August, we went to our local amusement park and made sure to catch the magic show. The show was, overall, very good. The magician is known here, with mixed reviews, so I don't want to drop names and get off topic. I was his last volunteer, with a very funny routine, and my daughter was his first volunteer with this exact routine. I talked to him after the show, and yes it was hobson's routine, climaxing in the restoration in the bag.
My daughter is very sensitive. I was worried that she might cry, but she was in a mood to play along, and she laughed. I had just started doing balloon animals a couple weeks before. So she was a great helper for the magician. Still, as much as I thought about incorporating the restoration bag into a magic routine, I have yet to think of an alternative to the stomping, but then again, I haven't put a lot of time into it. This is a routine for non-balloon workers, who can do just the basic dog. I am thinking of adding a lot of balloon elements to my show, with an early recognition in the show that popping happens sometimes, so when it's time to do a restoration, I can get into it another way, but not stepping on the dog. Incidentally, my daughter is taking up twisting as I am going gung-ho with it now. I posted this link on ballooning 101 in the Café - it's my daughter doing a giraffe, her second attempt - these tiny hands, holding all the bubbles.She's 5, turning 6 soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1GdacMRfK4 |
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MrGreggy Loyal user 213 Posts |
I have been doing balloon shows for many many years, and I agree that "killing" a balloon dog on purpose will not end well. I can see how the gag of telling it to play dead, and the balloon just sits there, is funny. But to stomp on it, that's not necessary.
When I'm twisting balloons, sometimes one will pop in my hands. It happens to all of us. At that point I pause, then ask the child if they would like a dead dog, handing them the broken piece. This always gets a laugh, because they know, by my initial reaction, it was an accident. Of course, I quickly make them a new one. By the way revlovejoy, I have lots of balloon twisting ideas and routines in my book "Kids Think It's Funny" that you and your daughter may find useful. The link is in my signature. |
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