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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1665 Posts |
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On Dec 20, 2022, Tim Roesch wrote: Thanks for posting the correct link. Marty |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
Here is one double lift after another:
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
It is never any tool. It is always about the craftsman who uses the tool and how the choose to use it.
I don’t particularly enjoy the effect in the title. I don’t particularly enjoy an ambitious card. I absolutely am ecstatic every time Pop posts his particular take on these effects. (Same with multiplying bottles.) To paraphrase Pete Townsend “It’s the singer not the song, that makes the music move along”. I think it is a more productive process to not think in terms of “X” effect being bad and just work out what works best personally for your performance performance.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
I find that the best craftsmen always have the finest tools they can get. I always start with the strongest tricks possible, and then try to fix the things I don't like. There are weak tricks, but some tricks are just "different." The Multiplying Bottles and the Ambitious Card suffer badly when the routine isn't crafted and presented correctly. It would be wrong to say the tool doesn't matter. The singer moves the song along, but a bad song will usually still be a bad song even in the hands of a master.
A tool is only at its most useful in the hands of a craftsman, but again, a craftsman chooses his tools carefully. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Pop yes. Consider the Amish s craftsmen. One might argue they do not use the “best” available tools, and it may be true. However the results are unquestionable.
This being said the tools they do use are absolutely wonderful. They last forever and themselves are made quite well. I believe this is your point? The best tool in the hands of a poor craftsman results in poor work. Again this is why I enjoy your work so much. The bottles being an amazing example. Great looking set of tools to do the work and the routine itself is incredibly engaging. It has both the elements of a master craftsman and working with a great tool. The result is unquestionable!
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1665 Posts |
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On Oct 21, 2023, Pop Haydn wrote: I think this is a very pertinent point. Adopting a craftsperson's or artisan's mindset is essential to elevate your magic. The world's top chefs do the same thing; they select the best available ingredients and use traditional and novel techniques to elevate their dishes. Marty |
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Jason Simonds Veteran user Pensacola, FL 318 Posts |
I'm a big proponent of Pop Haydn's Chicago Surprise and it's been one of my favorite tricks for years. I recently read Charlie Frye's new book and that has me playing around with a new variation for Chicago Opener for the first time in a long time. Now before you go looking, Charlie Frye doesn't have a version of Chicago Opener in his book, but he does present an idea that I've been playing with in my version of the trick. His idea is to get both selections done at the same time. In other words, you get the force out of the way before anything else ever happens. I'm not saying this is the method everyone should use, but I'm enjoying performing the effect this way.
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2023, Jason Simonds wrote: Are the cards returned to the deck and found separately? |
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Jason Simonds Veteran user Pensacola, FL 318 Posts |
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On Oct 31, 2023, Pop Haydn wrote: Right now, I'm returning the free selection to the deck and leaving the force card in the other spectator's hands. I picked up some Boo Back's and had the spectator say Boo, which scares the color off the card. After the first selection changes color, I announce that now they know what's going to happen and we have test conditions. I say Boo at the force card and nothing happens. Then I top change as I ask my spectator to try saying Boo. Then I look perplexed because it still didn't change colors. Then I flash the face and they see it has changed to the first card. I have played with returning them both to the deck at the same time, but right now I'm doing them separately to facilitate the top change. Here's another interesting idea I had on Halloween. I perform Fechter's Be Honest What Is It? One of the cards they are left with is my Force Card. I then do the Chicago Opener effect with the other card, leaving them still pinching the Force card and then I proceed to do the same actions I described above. I played with this a little the past two days and received good reactions. I do feel this might open their story up to further scrutiny when they go re-tell their version of the events. It does eliminate some of the process though, so I'm still playing with it. |
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Ampa New user A Cellar Vault in Berlin 63 Posts |
I believe Daryl's Chicago Opener was one of the first card tricks I ever saw. At that time, I was only focused on Erdnase, and my determination to learn more about card magic was solidified. Let's take a moment to acknowledge how great he was. Rest in peace Daryl. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeIi5So5vwc
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M / Trick or Die New user 51 Posts |
Just wanted to chime in, I shared my handling of this classic effect back in January, for free.
It's called Mind Melting Magician, and it's still available, just PM me or contact me through www.trickordie.com My version uses the same "process" for selecting the first card and forcing the second card. It also doesn't stir the order of the cards, so it works great as an opener as you can perform it and retain a stack in the deck. My script has a mentalism flavor to it, but I have included a description on how it can be performed as a normal magic trick also. The feedback has been really positive, reach out to me if you're interested - M / Trick or Die |
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