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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts |
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On 2010-03-05 02:21, magic4545 wrote: We have our latest winner here... Jimmy, your my hero....
"Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
I guess you'll be giving up magic and getting into Craps full-time?
I hear dice setting former magicians are hitting Vegas and taking down wads of cash. Congratulations Jimmy, you may be one of a kind in the whole-wide-world. (when you get your roulette system dialed in, THAT'S when I really want to talk to you.........'cause I want to be a winner too). |
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
Hi everyone,
I'll address your replies, the quote that you gave... Mr. Z. "So you won money betting the Don't. Well jeepers, you're favored against every point betting the Don't. This time it worked out for you, congrats." Still, it's a strategy that is legal. True, on my come out roll, I can accidentally get sevens, and take away my initial wrong bet on the come out. A long streak of sevens could nibble away at the bankroll. But, that is why I want to bankroll and lay more odds on the DC bets that are created. Free odds, right? I was sevening out almost TOO quickly most of the time, that's how well the rolling was working. I was concerned that I was only establishing the first or second number without getting the third point created. I like to have 3 points going. I kept losing my DC bets. Granted, they were only 5 bucks at a time, but it was annoying that I wasn't able to get those 2nd and 3rd bets up on the table, backed up with big free laid odds. Sure, I was making money. But that's why they say that wrong bettors have to have more patience than a right bettor. Remember, I still believe that anyone can have a bad streak. And, yes, maybe my good run on the 2nd day of craps was just due to the math pendulum swinging back after such horrible luck on the first day. But, all that I know is that when I rolled with this strategy, I was much more effective, and always have been. I usually win a LOT more than I lose, and I win more often than I lose. I'd say, over my lifetime, I'm a bit up. I'm not giving up my day job for this. But, I do like a lot of action, and I like the prospect of a skill game, and handling the dice adds a dimension of skill. I think that it's like being an NFL quarterback. I don't think that everyone can do it. But, for the ones who can, good ones will have more good days than bad, and they will reap the benefits. You can work on that claw throw, and, even if you only assist one roll in 20, you've still pushed a bit against the casino advantage. Since the casino advantage is only about 1% (0.9% on the don't, 0 on the odds), any advantageous roll will get you that much closer to even. And THAT gives me more action than if I did nothing. I will take you up on the test facility, if you will allow for 1 roll every ten minutes to not hit the back wall. I'm not talking about me putting the dice down in front of myself. I'm talking about the dice being thrown at least a foot high from the surface, and landing just short of the back wall without touching it. I'm telling you, they NEVER ONCE REPRIMANDED ME OR QUESTIONED IT!!! Now, they might if I started winning too much, I'll give you that. I'm just not interested in the 'financial backing' thing. I do this for fun and sport. The money is nice, but it's usually just a bit above the break even. It would be a tough way to make a living, I'll give you that, but that's exactly what I did back in the 90's when I was in Vegas and trying to make it as a magician. Craps was my night job. Back then, they were saying that I was a lot better at craps than magic, LOL!!! Hell, a few might STILL be saying that, I don't know. To Splice... "so a winning session proves everything." I've had a good couple of decades playing craps and not ending up destitute and homeless. I don't make much money. I was talking with Howard Hamburg, and he absolutely agreed with my strategy's potential. We talked at length about different craps cheats, cons and strategies, and he found my thinking and execution to be sound and credible. With practice, of course. The hardest thing would be to find an empty craps table that has a reasonable table minimum. The low table minimum is vital, and multiple odds instead of double odds are awesome, as long as you can bankroll it. To Silverking: I would just suggest finding a European roulette wheel without the "00" and have fun with whatever system you're using. It's about the action. And for craps, forget the comps. They're just not there these days. You're gonna have to earn it. I walked down to the Palms, and their table limits were $10, the buffet was $20, and I was really disappointed. It used to be my favorite place to gamble. Bummer. I'm really enjoying the spirited debate here, but, I have one question. Why do people patrol this site just to dispel positive accounts of gambling success? What's going on here? It really seems to strike a nerve in some. I will say this. I don't agree with "session" management for any reason other than fatique. I don't believe in trends or 'hot' tables. I used to believe that you used your ears to gamble, and you ran up to a hot table, and jumped onto the tail of a hot roll. But, when I'm not rolling, it's just pretty random. I believe in eating a good meal and being completely rested before playing craps. To make your mind clear and fresh, so that you don't start trying to overcompensate for losses. Patience. Patience can only be practiced with a sound body, mind and soul. Presence is the key to making good physical rolls and decisions. I'm also very good at walking away from the table when things are just not going that well. Sometimes, it's just not going well. But, each roll is it's own roll. However, when I come back, I'll make sure that the tables are empty. If I was patient enough, I would get a hotel for 3 or 4 days at a nice, cheap hotel like the Orleans, with low table minimums, and loose personnel, and just wait for the table to open up. If one or two players come up, I can be patient and just not bet while they're there. I just feel sorry for guys who love craps, but always get beaten down by the house advantage. It has to be fun. And it doesn't absolutely have to cost you an arm and a leg. Happy gambling, everybody!!! Your friend, Jimmy Fingers |
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
Jimmy, let me be blunt.
The internet has hundreds of forums where you can go spread your "I'm beating the craps table" stories, but this forum isn't one of them. Now, it's obvious you're not stupid, but the words you're posting most definitely are. If you truly believe what you're posting, you'll need to stop posting it here and go find some like minded folks who will endlessly congratulate you on your amazing discovery.........there's hundreds (if not thousands) of such forums on the internet. But here, you're just sounding like another uninformed punter, deserving of nothing more than our pity. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2010-03-05 03:28, Mr. Z wrote: Jimmy, you need to read this and read this and read this then read it again. This is a man who has been at the craps table for far longer than a couple of sessions during breaks at a magic convention. He knows what he is talking about. What you are doing is relating anticdotal evidence, and telling the tale. I watched a guy who stood on every 16 against a 7-10. HE WON. Didn't make it smart. It is a microcosam of the universe. Especially your two sessions. 10,000 rolls is even a small sampling when it comes to statistics and true odds. Please as Silverking said, just stop. People have logical disagreements about things, but math in general is pretty absolute. Please read the above again.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2010-03-05 11:27, magic4545 wrote: The first statement is someone who is just gambling, not winning. This is the point that people are trying to get across to you. It is a sucker statement. The second is easy to answer. People do not want a lot of urban legends and crap put forth to give people a bad education and then they go along believing the nonsense spewed. It strikes a nerve in some when you put it forth as anything but an anticdote about your trip. When you say it as absolute fact, those who know better simply want to see it in action.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts |
Jimmy, you should hang out with Richard Marcus and trade secrets.... he could probably teach you his savanah and you can show him some dice techniques to win....
"Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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No. 92 Regular user 199 Posts |
That's a bit harsh. He's obviously just been guided down the wrong path.
I suggest you read up on every thread in this, or any forum for that matter; before writing such a post. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Las Vegas was practicaly built on the backs of those who could beat math.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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