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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts 
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Is there a "downside" to clear-coating cups? I'm particularly wondering about issues such as would the cup finish be more easily vulnerable to either chipping or being scratched.
And, is clear coating subject to prohibitions on what can be used to clean the clear-coat surface. (i.e., just use soap and water, no polishing products that contain petroleum distillates, etc.)
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2202 Posts
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On 2009-11-17 12:53, Tom Fenton wrote: Thank you Tom 
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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What Tom Fenton said.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2202 Posts
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On 2009-11-17 13:45, Bill Palmer wrote: Thanks Bill. Was good speaking with you last night.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts
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Jake who?
Miss ya bro, I'll try calling over the coming weekend when I get back in town! |
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2202 Posts
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On 2009-11-17 14:33, MickeyPainless wrote: Looking foward to it!
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts
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The cups to keep an eye out for are the Foxy 3's....as others would say "YUMMY" I'd say it too Jake! |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts
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Jojo,
I do understand that we all have our personal preferences when it comes to the finish of our cups and props in general. I suggest you keep them as is. This way you can always have the option to polish the cups or let it age naturally. I personally think that Brass, Copper or any material for that matter, should stay the way they are. This is how they acquire their soul.... aside from the magic that you put in it through practice and performing. Just my 2 centavos and just my opinion. In the end.... it is still what makes you happier in magic. For it is through this happiness that we are able to impart it with our audiences. Cheers and Mabuhay from manila! rannie
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2202 Posts
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On 2009-11-17 13:17, Turk wrote: There is always the chance of scratching if the tolerences are tight on the cups, but it would most likely appear around the shoulder beads if anywhere. Chipping should not occur if the cups are properly clear coated. Mild soap will work just fine. Never use polishing compounds on clear coated cups. Hope this helps some Turk.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts
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I'm with Rannie. Letting the patina build also allows for more presentation angles about the cups being "antiques" or handed down from a parent or grandparent, etc.
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts
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I agree, Scott, as far as copper is concerned, but I'm not keen on brass that way. I LOVE the patina on my Sisti's and take full advantage, too, by using really bright final loads:
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Tom Fenton.jpg "View Profile") Inner circle Leeds, UK (but I'm Scottish) 1477 Posts
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Jake,
You're very welcome, my friend. Tom
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts
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Hi Jake: Welcome back. I hope you're well.
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Al Kazam the Magic Man Inner circle Living in Perth Western Australia 1042 Posts
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Well Gentleman,
I visited a metal plater yesterday, and he basically told me not to clear coat them, but rather polish them when needed. He would not guarantee the clear coat process, and then quoted me a very high price to discourage me from getting them done. $120 for 3 cups. I'm now looking at the Renaissance Wax. Thanks so much for everyone's input so far. JoJo
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts
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JoJo… I have had my Johnson Product set for many years; I like to keep them polished. I first use BRASO, then McGuire’s automotive wax. I have had no harm to the Cups.
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts
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Jo Jo ,
I would also discourage Clear coating, though I have been told about Clear Anodizing that will not chip. I can say for certain that Clear Coat will chip no matter how high quality it is. I have two sets of cups with clear coat on them, and I use them often. The newer cups I got have more chips than my older cups, and I used my older ones more. Polish them when needed, it doesn't take that much time to do so. My advice, Mike |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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If you must clean the cups, do a search on cleaning brass cups in the general search area. I have posted a number of ways to clean brass and copper without harming either metal.
Brasso does have some abrasive in it. You would probably have to polish a set of cups every day for about a decade to do noticeable harm to them with brasso, though. Nev-R-Dull is good. Flitz is also very good, and it contains a wax component that will keep your cups from tarnishing for a while.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts
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On 2009-11-17 16:51, Mad Jake wrote: That helps a lot, Jake. Thank you for the info. I hope that your health is improving-particularly since you shed that murderous machine shop schedule and regimen. Please give Jake Jr., Epiphany and Marcy a big thank you from me (and, I'm sure, from all of the RNT2 regulars) for all of their help during the business transfer and the tying up the loose ends. You and your family are tops. Best regards, Mike
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