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MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Hello silk workers. I just watched a silk effect on Bill Malone's, "Here I Go Again", Volume 3. It is called "Ernie's Sex Test". I watched it several times and cannot catch the actual name of the trick. I am hard of hearing.
It's the one where the silk is folded and a "spirit" rises up. I used to have it years ago. Is it available in a book? |
Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
It has gone under several names, the most popular one being "Glorpy." I call my variations "Hank, the Ghost Hank" and it is available on my site in The Wizards' Journal #16.
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MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Hi Spellbinder. Yes, that's the one.
I need one in 3 days. Is there anything in books or dvds on how to make this? I have Richard Osterlind's version, "Solid Ghost", but it is a different gimmick. A trip across town to the magic shop costs more in gas than the trick. |
Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
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On 2009-11-23 12:55, MemDeck329 wrote: Yes, it's in the e-Book from The Wizards' Journal #16 called "Hank, the Ghost Hank" on my site. It describes how to make a variety of versions using easily found home-made materials, or impromptu using whatever is at hand.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Spellbinder, that was precisely what I was looking for. I just now ordered it from your site.
I didn't realize the description was for an ebook. I thought it was for the actual hank.... Thanks again. I look forward to studying the ebook on this great effect. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2009-11-23 12:55, MemDeck329 wrote: I can't believe you wrote that statement, we should all support our none Internet magic stores. Glorpy is being made by Fun Inc. as I believe they now have the rights to this Madblood Creation product. If you do not want to drive to a magic shop. Then do a search for Glorpy or Hyrum Hank an Empire product. http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/glorpy-by-......189.html here is one Internet suggestion. |
MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Hi Bill, while I understand your criticism, I don't entirely agree with you. I do support my local magic shop. The owner is a long term personal friend since 1979.
My personal vehicle is a 1972 Mustang. It gets less than 10 miles per gallon. My magic shop is about 10 miles away. So, it would cost me about $10 in gasoline to pick up a $7.00 item (Glorpy). I did spend about $100 there in the past week, including a couple of Simon Arronson books, Mesika thread, and some Loops. I own about 200 magic books that I bought from magic shops, in person. The hank that comes with Glorpy is ugly (in my opinion). I would rather use my own hank. The ebook that Spellbinder sells has many routines for several different "Glorpy Type" gimmicks that I can make at home. One of his routines uses a holdout. I am working on making my own holdout this week. It is exactly like the $50 one in the "Invisible Hand" 3-DVD series. I have the DVDs. I refused to pay $50 for something that I can custom-make for $5..... I own the Richard Osterlind DVDs that explain how to make his "Solid Ghost", but that is not the effect I was looking for. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I had the Solid Ghost from England back in the 1970's, never seen it so did not think much of it. Then I seen John Cornelius do it at a lecture. WOW! What a effect it had on me. He tapped it with a spoon and his hand. Then rolled it on the table. Could not believe it was that impressive.
There is a reason to use a men's pocket hanky with Glopy, it accents the movement. If the scarf is all 1 color it would not show as well the movement. Sorry, you see it that way, but I do not see my disbelief as a criticism. |
MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Mr. Osterlind's performance with the Solid Ghost is also very similar to the way you described it above.
Bill Malone gets a lot of laughter out of his version. He was a bar magician for years, so his version is PG-13 Rated.... This trick can be presented several different ways. Ok, your disbelief is duly noted as just that. No problem from my end. You have helped a lot of folks here. I respect your opinion. |
Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
JC Wagner has a great version called Spectral Silk on Commercial Magic The JC Wagner Video. An old A1 video tape.
His version stars Herby the Flea. Really entertaining! Especially seeing him perform it live at various times. -Mary Mowder |
MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Hi Mary. I remember that one. The $5 ebook by Professor Spellbinder features 7 gimmicks and a dozen routines using glorpy-type effects. In my opinion, it's a great value for a low price. I had a couple of problems visualizing a couple of the diagrams in the ebook. I emailed Spellbinder and he went to the trouble of taking a couple of actual photos for me to explain what I was missing.
Considering everything I've seen, I like Bill Malone's presentation the best. I am the oldest of 11 kids (very old). Our dad was a lifer in the military. So, we all grew up with some off-color humor and blue jokes. So, this one will be ideal for my family Christmas Party/Reunion. Bill's routine may not be suitable for some other venues. |
magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
I think the "Glorpy" comments are an attempt to at least give credit to the original effect's creator. If a book has "glorpy-like" effects, the history of the effect should give credit.
I have written 5 books based on so-called generic or fair traded items but I still give homage to the originators. Hiram was a direct knock-off of Glorpy and some in-house rising cloths in brick and mortar shops are also knock-offs, because its easy to make. Even if the original is ugly or strange quality cloth, it was how the original was made in order to keep the costs down.
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MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Good point. Spellbinder DOES give credit and references to many glorpy-type creations. There are at least 10 references.
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
I bought about ten Glorpy's over the years as they wore out quickly. I then started to make my own because I figured out how to make a gimmick which would not punch a hole in the silk after 20 or 30 uses. I also made up a matching ungimmicked handkerchief so that I could use that hank in another effect where the spectator gets to hold the handkerchief. Then I would put it away and do some other magic. Later I would take out the gaffed handkerchief and do the "Ghost" routine. Glorpy and Solid Ghost each have advantages, but I personally prefer the animation which you can do with the Glorpy gimmick. My pal Gene Anderson does solid ghost and it's a killer effect in his hands.
If Fun now is manufacturing Glorpy I hope that my old college friend Graham Putnam who owns Fun is making them so they do not wear out so quickly. Dennis Loomis I forgot to mention that Ralph Adams did a stage illusion in which he used a giant version of the Glorpy Gimmick in a routine in which he produced a person. For those of you familiar with the gimmick imagine making it big enough so that you could stand on it and operate it with a foot. With a large cloth, there appears to be something/someone under the cloth, and a moment later... in Ralph's show... there was. Dennis Loomis
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MemDeck329 Regular user 179 Posts |
Hi all.... as things worked out, besides the eBook, I DID drive to the local magic shop and purchased a "Hyrum Haunted Hanky". Unfortunately, it was made in Taiwan. Go figure!
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Most magic has always been foreign made. Except for boxes and machine coin work the USA has produced more users than producers. Audiences are the important part anyway.
Glorpy is a very useful prop. In magic, we should never under estimate the entertaining powers possible with a rag and scrap of paper. They focus imagination and that is priceless. Enjoy your magic! Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The original was "Solid Ghost," which did not work the same way as "Glorpy." John Cornelius' version was also different from "Glorpy."
And, of course, "Gorky," was a Russian dramatist and a park. There is no evidence that Gorky, the dramatist has ever haunted a handkerchief or that Gorky Park was ever haunted, either.
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
Glorpy, Linetta Welch of Fabric Manipulation makes an excellent one...BTW Bill Malone routine is very good!
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
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On 2009-12-08 10:58, MemDeck329 wrote: "Go figure"? This is the problem. The effect, the name, the distribution, and the history becomes ***ized. The Taiwan version is a copy of the "Hyram" which is a knock-off of Glorpy. How soon we forget. Cornelius did not knock-off the effect, it was a clever variation although not as self-working. The Tannens "solid ghost" was a very old effect and pretty bad. It was not the "original" Glorpy. The comment implies that "glorpy" was a knock-off.
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Chris Meece Special user Somerset Kentucky 864 Posts |
Bless your heart, you are so disadvantaged. You have to drive a whole 10 miles to go to a magic shop. Try 3 hours. That is the closest magic shop from me.
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