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James Harrison Special user Ontario, Canada 762 Posts |
Dan,
Thank you for the link. |
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martysh Special user Greenville,SC 522 Posts |
I have been relearning the muscle pass and have had great success with a 64 silver Candian dollar.. a very thick coin...then i have translated down to thinner coins
Marty Shapiro Greenville, SC |
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Rindfleisch Special user New Jersey 502 Posts |
i believe it doesn't really have to do with the coin (with the exception of dimes and pennies) it's all about finding the position in your hand. for exapmle when i do it one edge is directley in the center of my palm. the thumb extends out and then back over and around bringing the coin to a vertical postion in the hand it's a simple matter of pushing down with the thumb and contracting or stretching the palm upward. the way i do it the center of the palm just acts as a stop.
:handcuffs: Joe Rindfleisch
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gforster Regular user californian living in wisconsin 136 Posts |
What I mean by being subtle is that when I do the MP, you (or at least I) can tell that I am doing it. When I see people like Kanoia or Andrew Gordon (from the magic video depot, who by the way, has some very unique uses for the MP that I think you all should check out) or other good magicians do the MP, I can't see the hand squeeze. It litereally looks like it jumps out of a flat palm. Not so with mine. I'm wondering what I am doing wrong or how I can fix that sleight, I mean slight problem.
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Sean Wisdom New user Belfast, Ireland 40 Posts |
I don't think the MP is ever supposed to be "hidden". The fact that you can actually make the coin jump is what you're trying to show, and then if they say something like "I saw how you did that", hand them the coin and say "You try". They'll see just how hard it is to lift the coin up out of their palm and they'll just doing it by flicking their wrist or something.
Sean Wisdom
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Rindfleisch Special user New Jersey 502 Posts |
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On 2003-06-21 08:38, Sean Wisdom wrote: I disagree!! Some of the most visual penetrations can be accomplished with the use of the Muscle Pass. Have you seen many variations or are you theorizing without all the evidence in??? You'd be suprised what can be accomplished with the Muscle Pass. Joe
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
I thought I should pass on this little warning that a guy gave me while at a magic convention. This guy actually had to have surgery done to his hand as a result of the muscle pass. Not because of the move itself, but from doing it improperly. The coin actually tore into the muscle at the base of the thumb.
So the safety tip is to make sure you have that the coin pushed into a fold of flesh rather then the muscle itself. This is the location where you'll more in likely get the callouse. I do the muscle pass all the time so I'm not trying to ask anyone to avoid the move.In fact I can sometimes get quite a few feet with a normal half dollar because of that callouse from practicing (Ever see me at a convention I'd be happy to demonstrate.. ). Just be careful. Make sure you're not digging the edge into the muscle. A torn muscle is very painful I'm sure many of you know. Ron Jaxon |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
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On 2003-06-21 10:03, Rindfleisch wrote: I agree with Joe. Here's another invisible use...the "Sylvester Pitch" with no movement on the part of the "pitching" hand. |
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leefoley3 Elite user Texas 402 Posts |
I too, am working on learning the MP. It's going well, I think. I actually wasn't trying to do the MP. I recently aquired a new silver dollar and solid copper silver dollar sized penny. I was working with them as I'm used to using halves and wanted to do some things with silver dollar sized coins. I was just working on learning to classic palm the larger coins and applied to much pressure and the coin shot out horizontally and I was able to catch it with my other hand. So, as I mentioned I'm just starting to learn the move. I also heard something a while back that John Cornelius had done the move so long he could no longer execute the move any more. Anyone know anything about? that?
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highmagic Veteran user 399 Posts |
The "Relentless Ring and String Routine" (by Bob Miller) has a bonus section on coin magic. It includes a set of moves based on the "Invisible coin" patter, and the only moves that failed on Mr. Miller (in a otherwise flawless tape) is the muscle pass... I think it means something!!
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Threeatms New user 56 Posts |
I started practicing the muscle pass last week. The first day I managed to find the sweet spot and get a little hop. Now I’m getting it out of the hand about 2-3 inches.
Oddly, my left hand is much better than my right (dominant). While practicing on the first day, my right hand started getting sore but I didn’t want to quit experimenting, so I switched to my left hand. The first real pop occurred when practicing it on my left hand and I used the same technique in my right to figure out placement. I’m using WL Halves right now but being female I was wondering if other coins would be easier for the height issue. Will the strength develop so that I can do a half “Like a Man” or will it be more impressive for me to downsize a bit and get the sucker to fly? As for movement of the hand, I’m still working on keeping my pinky flat and still but for now the height is a more important issue! |
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Ditto on seeing Shoot use the M.P.
I have only been using this since about 1976. That was when John C. was showing it in his lecture. Since than I have been sharing it with my audiences and trying to teach magicians. It took me about 6 months and now 27 years to be able to do quite a bit with something that took up only a few paragraphs in Principles and Deceptions. (IMHO a great book, part of the Buckley Trilogy.) If you see me at at a convention ask to see the M.P. with a Nickle. It makes small animals run away and magicians smile. Layman don't seem to notice the difference. Time takes time. As they(who are they) say, "if it was easy every one would be doing it." Actually a lot more folks are doing it today than back in 76. For the last 13 or so years I have been doing it with a rock a friend brought back to KC from the East Coast. I now use it in the part of my nearly normal routine where I go back to caveman days to the first Motivational Magician. His name is Og. After doing some coin to rock changes and then the rock that falls up, I go into my imatation of Mick Jagger another "Rock Magician er Rock Mugician, er Rock Musician. The character Og, is named after Og Mandino who wrote some great motivational books. Enjoy the journey as well as the destination. Harris Deutsch Laughologist
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
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On 2003-07-28 11:48, Threeatms wrote: You'll get greater height with a lighter coin. Try it with a half dollar size poker chip (plastic or wood) or with one of those gag wooden nickles. |
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