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Bill Hegbli
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On 2010-01-29 13:47, Oliver Ross wrote:
Thanks Bojan,

I've got Fantasio's own book. It must be his first one, since it has no volume.

Oliver.


This is not the book refered to, David Ginn published 5 Paper bound booklets on Fantasio Candle and Cane Magic. I don't know if they are available still from David Ginn, you have to seek the 2nd hand market.
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Micheal has it right.

After the cap is on. Twist the ferrule clockwise (Test - start with 270 degrees to 720 degrees- which is two full turns).The action of tighting the bottom loosens the upper 3/4 of the cane allowing it to move faster.

Note: Overtightning the ferrule will allow the top to speed along but then, there is a traffic jam at the bottom. Get to know your cane and eventually you can pick up any cane and give it that little twist and know how much to twist it, just by feel.
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I know this forum is pretty dead by now, but I thought I'd post a video to help a little for even the more experienced viewers. This is fantasio himself performing the vanishing cane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6AUzL4VUVM go to about 3 minutes to see the vanish
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Who makes a "cane silk?" What are their typical dimensions? Thanks.

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Rice sold one for years...maybe still available?
I think P and A offered one for a while.

James...they are really not that hard to make. You could start with a white diamond silk of about 24" in length and then wrap the tip in a piece of saran wrap (a latex balloon is better) and the part inside the balloon will remain white if you seal the balloon's opening with a tight thread or rubber band. then the bulk of the silk is dipped into a very hot pan of RIT black dye until the color is one shade DARKER than you prefer. The entire silk is rinsed in cold water to set the color and when the water runs clear...remove the ballon and rubber bands...and you'll have a cane silk.

Some 'experts' recommend sewing a 'bb' or small ball bearing (Perhaps a tiny metal button?) to the end of the silk so that when the silk is twirled...the centrifugal force causes the silk to take the extended shape of the emerging cane.

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Bill Hegbli
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On 2011-08-04 16:05, JamesinLA wrote:
Who makes a "cane silk?" What are their typical dimensions? Thanks.

Jim


Rice's Cane to Silk Silk here:
http://www.silkkingmagic.com/Rice's%20Cane%20to%20Silk.htm

Click here to view attached image.
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Fantasio explains how to repair canes that vanish too slow in his book "my canes and candles". Close completely the cane,roll it up completely on itself and put a rubber band on it to let it stay close. Then apply heat on the closed cane with an hair dryer for 5-6 minutes and do not remove the rubber band for 1-2 weeks. After that time open it again and you will see the difference in vanishing speed,
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One other thig. You must clean the cane. By taking ome water and dishliquid soap. Actually allow the cane to unroll as you clean it.
Let it rinse.
Then after drying, spray it with silicon spray.
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Magicians gives the best advice here, you cannot underestimate the importance of having a clean cane.
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Clean the cane with Windex. Let it dry thoroughly. Also, I store my vanishing canes expanded backwards. This seems to help.
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Do not use WD-40 on a plastic cane. It will slowly destroy it.
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If you want the best available I have a mint condition Harakhan vanishing cane for sale, brand new. It is a collectors item, but if used will last you a lifetime.
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Well, I have an Appearing and Vanishing Canes for sale that Tannen made called the "Superior". They are still in the boxes I purchased them in and are new. They are a deep beautiful Blueish color in bright light. The Vanishing Cane has a unique round aluminum cap and the Appearing has a silver metal stip attacned for the cap. If you have the Romaine DVD on Card and Billiard Ball manipulation he uses the Vanishing in his act. Tannen's has sold out of these and looks like they will not be made again.
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If You type http://www.fantasio.com and You click on "helpful tips" directly from the menu on the main page, You will see a page where fantasio explains how to properly care of appearing/vanishing canes and candles
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What bothers me most about the Fantasio cane (appearing cane) is the sound: GRRRRRTTTT! The music needs to be quite loud for the people on the first row not to hear it, I share your opinion on the vanishing cane, to me, it seems very slow aswell..
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You are not thinking as the audience would. When they hear that sound, it’s the equivalent to adding a flash of light before producing something. The swooshing sound startles them. I’ve seen the look many times from spectators when I have produce a metal or plastic appearing cane. It’s so fast and the sound makes it seem magical. You have to just pause for a few seconds to get the effect to sink in.

Don’t ruin that magic moment by covering it up. Take advantage of it.
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On 2011-09-03 12:59, mtpascoe wrote:
You are not thinking as the audience would. When they hear that sound, it’s the equivalent to adding a flash of light before producing something. The swooshing sound startles them. I’ve seen the look many times from spectators when I have produce a metal or plastic appearing cane. It’s so fast and the sound makes it seem magical. You have to just pause for a few seconds to get the effect to sink in.

Don’t ruin that magic moment by covering it up. Take advantage of it.

I see what you mean, but to me personally, the sound of that cane is the super obvious sound of something sliding open very fast.. I have the same thing with Fantasio candles, when I vanish the candle, I can hear the sound, offcourse the audience can't (Godd, I hope they can't!) But that just makes me nervous, deep down inside I know no one noticed, but I did! Haha
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On 2010-01-28 12:02, magicians wrote:
If the speed of the cane is too visible for your tastes, you can either vanish it with it perpendicular to the audience, or use a cane silk. Which will look like the cane has melted into a silk.
The black on black will hide the vanish.


Thank you Ian. I know this is an old post, but when I found it my first thought was, "I can't believe I have never thought of that!" What a great idea. The black (or white or green or red) vanishing cane turning into a silk of the same color is a great and fun idea.
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