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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeA1tyPoX......ture=sub
What is your opinion??? I prefer the Joker.... haha The demonstration is about tasting the blood and guessing the meal?
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backinblack Special user 910 Posts |
Tnesionable way for misdirection. if you perform for a target-group who likes this kind of mentalism more than the traditional way it may have its impact.
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Sucks.
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Mindsurfer New user 6 Posts |
You are all entitled to your opinions, of course.
It's not exactly my cup of tea, either. But, the fact is that this show turned this particular vampire into a celebrity. More important, it turned an unknown magician into a local celebrity with many bookings, fanclubs and even merchandising. So in a way it IS a success ! |
stashu Regular user 155 Posts |
This guy is a clown not a mentalist
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Chester Sass Loyal user Check out my book 120% CHESTOSTERONE 246 Posts |
Maybe I will never get rich........just because I would never sell my love to the art and my conviction. Some guys would do EVERYTHING just to get such things like a local celebrity with many bookings, fanclubs and even merchandising.
If that is their way of getting attention, it's sad, but it's ok. Some guys don't have THE SPECIAL SOMETHING.....so they have to be some kind of special with their clothing and their behavior. But one thing I know for sure, I don't want to have such fans who aren't interested in the art that I'm doing, and just like me because I'm "special"!
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
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On 2010-05-03 13:35, Mindsurfer wrote: There was a time, not so long ago, when to be a celebrity you had to be Albert Einstein, create a string of wonderful literary works or change the world in a meaningful way. Now you just have to get on a reality series. - entity
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Garrette Special user 926 Posts |
I don't mind that he did it, nor do I mind the persona and get-up. I wouldn't do it because it doesn't suit me and I personally find it silly and boring, but if he's had success with it, then good for him.
For those who want to remain pure to the art, then excellent, but providing entertainment that works (for some) is not a sell-out simply because it does not adhere to some amorphous artistic ideal. I liken it to literature in that I enjoy the literary greats and admire the authors for what they have achieved, but I also enjoy some comic books, regardless if the plotting, writing, structure, and themes are silly. When the authors and publishers know that what they are selling is simply for fun and do not package it as more than that, then they are successes. They are authors and writers and artists who have found a way to reach an audience. (Side note: Some comics have actually been of very high literary quality; I recognize this). Is Vincent the Vampire a sell-out? I don't think so. He's found a way to entertain that works. |
ReviewerMaster Veteran user 307 Posts |
As long as it works for him.. that was the right decision he made.
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stijnhommes Special user 568 Posts |
He didn't win the first time he was on the show, he's not going to this time.
And for good reason. |
Paul Brook Special user UK 855 Posts |
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On 2010-05-03 21:28, entity wrote: Amen to that! (In agreement of what Tom is saying, not that it is a good thing)
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Garrette Special user 926 Posts |
Quote: Not really. For every Einstein there's a P.T. Barnum and a Blavatasky.
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Not really... what?
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Rory Raven Special user Providence, RI 514 Posts |
And as entity is surely smart enough to know, not everyone who gets on a reality show ends up a celebrity; we've seen one notable crash-and-burn here on the Café, haven't we?
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Garrette Special user 926 Posts |
Quote: Just saying that having to be an Einstein or equivalent to be a celebrity in the past isn't accurate.
On 2010-05-04 21:22, entity wrote: |
Rocketeer Special user Westchester, NY 965 Posts |
Back in Black,
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
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On 2010-05-05 05:10, Garrette wrote: It's your impression of what I said that isn't accurate. My actual quote was: "There was a time, not so long ago, when to be a celebrity you had to be Albert Einstein, create a string of wonderful literary works or change the world in a meaningful way. Now you just have to get on a reality series." I was merely stating an opinion, but... A celebrity, in terms of popular culture, is someone who is easily and widely recognized in culture. Barnum created a world of fun and entertainment that touched large numbers of people, and he did become a celebrity on an international scale, long before television and the internet. Blavatsky was only famous (or perhaps infamous)to a small group of followers during her lifetime. She became more well known (still not an international celebrity, in my opinion) after her death, but still, by no means is she an easily recognized part of the popular culture. Rory: I think that the popularity or celebrity of a reality show participant depends somewhat on the popularity of the reality show itself. So, I'll amend my statement to say: "Now they only have to get on a popular reality series." - entity
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Garrette Special user 926 Posts |
Quote: No, I understood fine. Barnum was a celebrity without inventing string theory or writing great literary works. You don't like the Blavatsky example; that's fine because there are others. Start with one who was a contemporary of Einstein: Houdini.
On 2010-05-05 08:52, entity wrote: Next to Barnum put Ripley. Next to Ripley put the Fox sisters. And your dismissal of Blavatsky applies precisely to Vincent the Vampire. He is known to only a small group and is in no way an international celebrity. And you are, of course, entitled to your opinion. |
entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
My original post was in response to someone else commenting on Vincent the Vampire having become a celebrity.
My point, of course, is that many of those who are considered celebrities today haven't really accomplished much, and so perhaps the criteria for celebrity in today's culture is somewhat diminished. An opinion. Barnum, in my opinion, affected the world in a meaningful way and was widely recognized in popular culture during his lifetime. His name and contributions are still widely recognized. Houdini - yes, widely recognized in popular culture. Popularized a new form of entertainment (the challenge escape act)and became the most famous and highest paid variety entertainer of his time. Ripley - yes, ditto. Fox Sisters - no. - entity
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Garrette Special user 926 Posts |
Okay. I still disagree, but it's no big deal. Thanks for the discussion.
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