Hey, I recently created a new formula for the magic square magic trick and was wondering if anyone knows how I should go about finding out if it has already been discovered.

There are many variations on the formula possible if it is a version of Harry Lorayne's 4x4 square.

Mike

PM me with it, Tom, and I'll let you know. HARRY LORAYNE.

Never received the PM, Tom, so guess you have the information. Best - HL.

Hello,

I am rather new to magic squares, but I want to have a way to force a two digit number on a spectator, a number above 21. I know I don't need this to do the magic square, but it could be very useful as making the square look like it was a prediction. Does anyone have any ideas?

Oh sorry been away for a while - I'll PM it to you now

Making the "square number" look like a prediction is wrong. That makes it appear as if you can do the square with ONLY that number, when the point is (at least, should be) that you can do a magic square for and with any number. HL.

It depends on the presentation. Mr Lorayne has a great one that I learned from "The magic book". Another very good use of a magic square is Dr Bill´s "Subliminal square", though it´s not a prediction...

HÃ¥kan
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You can see my basic presentation of the square at the end of my "Best Ever" DVD, Volume 4. It's an hour piece of me doing some memory stuff for a lay audience. HL.

You might be interested in my introductory article on magic squares http://www.lybrary.com/magic-square-effects-a-5.html It also points you in other directions where you can take this type of effect.

I'd love to see a video.

I come across this video on youtube, performed by Harry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeaTzZO8jTU&feature=related

I will give a standing ovation to Harry's awesome performance.

Its simply amazing...

What a great presentation of Mr. HL...

Stephen Tucker developed a technique to make magic squares automatically
I think that he still selling it on his site

Also there are several books in English and in French on the magic squares like
Magic Squares by Mark S. Farrar or
Les carrés magiques de René Descombes

I'm so delighted to be on this forum and be able to exchange with the great magicians such as Harry Lorrayne, my best regards to you. I'm a great fan of your math/calculation works as well as your closeup. Anyways, I'm a magician from Paris/France and after years of closeup I've become a fan of mentalism and my shows are exclusively on mental effects now. I think that a whole math/calculation and Magic square routine in a mentalism act is more than pleasant and impressive for a lay audience.
I've been studying magic squares for a while, and I think that Harry lorrayne's formulas are the best for me. Just one touch to the routine, what if you ask the spectator to think of a number and write it down and then go the magic square by asking the spectator if he sees his number, he will say no and then go into the additions!
I'll be so glad to have M. Lorrayne's and all your point of views,
Thanks and best regards for the new year.

Pourang65 wrote:
As someone with a number of published (and one unpublished) methods and presentations for magic squares, I am curious as to which other methods were investigated, and the criteria used to decide which was the best. There are many approaches to this, and I would love to hear opinions as to why a given technique appears attractive.



A number of performers use this approach (it's been around for a long time), though I have never favoured it, as it reduces the possibility of using the square as a means of adding texture to an act (which in my view is one of its great attractions).

I totally agree with you that all methods and techniques are "attractive". As I wrote, and I emphasise that Harry's methode is "the best for ME!" and it could not fit someone else. I like his method because it is direct simple and all the numbers are different which is interesting. I would be glad to rad your methods if possible.
Cheers

The youtube video appears to be a private video.