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mavericklancer Elite user Tustin, CA 448 Posts |
I'm not quite sure if I'm exposing too much there, but since Schoolcraft clearly says what an OxF is on their site, I don't think it's much of a secret.
Has anyone tried using a TUC with a shimmed/m*g****c ] to create an OxF type gimmick? And if so, how did you like the handling? |
jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
Yes it works with a modified handling but there is really no comparison once you get an OxF.
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
I ordered one for my Morgan TUC. I thought I had ordered a shi***d exp-], but what I received was a shi***d Slippery Sam. The SS was pretty well made but I don't like the handling as well. I intended to use it for Triple Threat-type routines. (FYI if you custom order from Mr. Tango, just remember that English is his second language and be precise as to what you are ordering.) He is really nice, but he told me that he strongly believes that the SS is "better" with the TUC than an exp-]. I am not so sure. I am not going to send the SS back at this point because I am waiting for the TUC book to see what handlings are in there. I probably will be getting a shi***d exp-] at some point.
If anyone else has tried a shi***d exp-] with a TUC, I would be interested as well as to how it works for them. Also, where you got it. I am not sure Lassen or Schoolcraft would sell just the exp-], but if either of them did, the advantage would be that the rim would fully cover the edge of the coin. My SS from Mr. Tango, like my Johnson sh***s don't cover the edge fully. My Tripple threat and my OXF do, however (thus the justified difference in price!). I agree with Jazzy that my OXF is a superb gaff and the new routines comming out for it are really good (Erik Jones' material in particular), but the TUC is unique for its one handed moves that you can't do with an OXF. Regards, Alan |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
There are several effects in the pending book "Essential TUC" that combine a [ with the TUC. I have no problem using a standard [ but queried Mr. Tango about a Sh***[. He said he was already working on a SS version to meet that need. As he is a proponant of "keep it simple" I believe he feels the "one hand" handling to be important. For me, the advantage of the Sh*m is being able to toss the "stack" about. Also, it is fairly easy to Sh*m a standard [ yourself, so he had little need to manufacture one.
PM me and I'll send an effect using your SS [ to try.
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Tony Thomas Inner circle North Carolina 1248 Posts |
I have a '64 Kennedy TUC. I have tried it with the Magnetic Expanded Shell Portion of a Schoolcraft 3CF. It didn't work because the magnetics were too strong. The TUC coin sucked up and didn't dislodge easily.
So, the way to make this work is with a standard non-magnetic shell. I have just ordered a '64 Johnson Expanded Shell, to create a TUC Tripple Threat of sorts. I'll let you know how it works. Of course, I won't be able to flip the set as one coin without it separating. But, it will do a lot of cool things more easily than a flipper. I think it will be very cool... |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
I have used a standard [ with a TUC from the beginning and included several such effects in "TUC Appreciation." The pending Shimmed Slip-Shell from Tango will add new possibilities.
However, you can add your own shim to a [ in several ways -- metal tape, for example. It does not have to adhere securely - only not fall off when tossing the Combo about. I am considering modifying the amazing effect possible with the "Birch Stack" for the TUC/Shim-[ combo .. if there is any interest .. for example, a MIser's Dream effect with any container, anytime, anywhere.
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Mr. Tango Elite user Argentina 465 Posts |
All our Slippery Expanded shell are shimmed so if you put one over a TUC you will have 3 coins in one set.
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jconstantine Special user Long Island New York 566 Posts |
Try this on for size take the one of you sections of your super triple coin and put it on the front of your tuc. I did this with my eisenhower tuc and super triple coin. With practice you can spread to 2 or 3 coins all with one hand. Makes for a killer 3 fly and a ditch for the whole unit. Try it. You'll love it.
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Daz Buckley Elite user Australia 469 Posts |
I use a TUC with a s*****med exp] often and I am able to toss it hand to hand and then do a 3 coin production and vanish. All the gaffs are Tango and it works well.
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Jedo New user 57 Posts |
If the SS can stay well on a TUC I also think it's a better solution than the shell especially for some 3 fly effect. Sadly the sh.... process of the SS in order to stuck to my TUC didn't work as nicely as I would like.
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