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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
I am currently working on a somewhat unique routine that uses larger than normal balls, about 2 1/2" to 2 3/4". I've come up with a lot of my own moves, and adapted a lot of standard billiard moves, but I was wondering if any of you could point me in the direction of some good instructional materials, or reccomend moves that would work well with balls of this size (I would be working with even larger balls, but my hands are too small)
Any help would be appreciated. Specifically I'm looking for moves involving productions (without the shell) and vanishes, and color changes. Most would be bare handed, but productions from other items would be appreciated as well. I already have some decent materials, but I'm trying to finish developing this routine. Any gimmicks that might help would be nice as well. I'm not looking so much for easy answers as places to look for ideas and usefull moves.
Matthew Olsen
I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Tell us what reference material you already have. There is nothing published concerning the size of the balls, that usually has to do with the size your hands can handle.
There are not gimmicks for large ball manipulation that I know of either. Just keep doing what you mentioned, try to convert the standard published moves for larger balls of the size you mentioned. |
Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
MagicJuggler, I thought for a moment you were introducing yourself with your native American Indian name.
Neal Austin
"The golden rule is that there are no golden rules." G.B. Shaw |
volto Special user 603 Posts |
Sealegs - LOL - "Sits down slowly" perhaps.
The Levent Ultimate Billiard Ball DVDs have some interesting moves and routines along the lines that you mention - productions done in various ways and with various gimmicks. A lot of the techniques are very simple, but made much more deceptive in the context of the routine. Real billiard balls are 2 1/4"; Levent says on the DVD that he uses 2 1/4" Fakinis but he talks about how he was practicing for a while with bigger balls without realizing it. |
JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
I wonder how big the ball is for Vernon's ball and cone routine? I think it's pretty big. Maybe you could check out the professor's ball and cone routine.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Jacques Loyal user North 206 Posts |
Jerry Andrus Zone Zero.
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
Already have looked at the professor's material for ball and cone and ball and silk, it's some of the few items I've been able to find that larger balls are used. Other than that I've been inventing some moves, or adapting existing moves from billiard manipulation routines.
Matthew Olsen
I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable. |
DanielCoyne Special user Western Massachussetts 544 Posts |
I'm guessing from your screen name that you might be a juggler as well as magician. You can make a ball disappear in the middle of a three ball juggling pattern. A quick search will reveal lots of variations on this. Here's
one example by Dan Menendez. (It's at 1:07.) Daniel |
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