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paulierc New user 20 Posts |
Hello everyone
I have been working on a special routine, entirely of card magic. I have many effects from all aspects of card magic, but where I'm struggling is putting everything together. I know that shows like this have been done in the past, and was wondering if there is any information about the acts somewhere. I'm not looking at stealing, but just inspiration. |
crestfallenLyric Veteran user 307 Posts |
Definitely check out Bill Malone - particularly his DVD set, Malone meets Marlo. Marlo's Miracle Routine is another routine he performs which can help you decide how to arrange tricks in a particular order.
There is a great section and in-depth significant discussion on proper routining in Darwin Ortiz's book, Strong Magic. You can even check out Card College [Lite] - since the tricks are discussed as routines by themselves, he also provides reasons why they are combined like so. Good luck!
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SlipperyPete Loyal user 218 Posts |
I like to do tricks that uses the same setup as the one before
Like Play it straight trumph and then, say, the Marlo opener Or ones that follow the same theme, like gambling demo's-- ace cutting, a poker deal, 10 card poker deal and then a gambling story trick, maybe a 3 card monte routine thrown in there somewhere |
MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
I suppose the best place to start would be knowing a bit more about you and what you have in mind?!?!? Without knowing what your goal is (entertaining friends and family vs. strolling, parlor etc.) it will be hard to give you any real advice!
How bout an outline of your experience, desired venue, tricks in arsenal now, what you'd like to accomplish etc.! MMc |
poonchingyip Elite user Canada 419 Posts |
I also met this kind of situation before, and I was so confused to look for sth that I would like to learn.
What I did is to list out those magicians I know, then look for their books and see their significant pieces (obviously, if you have certain effects that you want to learn --- that is even faster!). After I learned all those I needed from those magicians, I went to session with my magic buddies, chat around and see if you are able to hear some names that you never heard before; then you can start to do the research. For example, I heard the name "John Bannon" when I was working on my spectator cutting aces routine~ then I immedately went online and google + youtube the name; then I went to different magic websites and see what kind of products he/she has. It's pretty effective especailly with the help of the internet. =] Hope it helps! - Arthur |
Darth_Prime Veteran user 322 Posts |
Ricky Jay And His 52 Assistants Would be a Brilliant Piece to watch for ideas on how to make a whole show consisting of 'cards' (Or Mostly)
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paulierc New user 20 Posts |
Darth_prime
I knew of Ricky Jay and his 52 assistants, I reserached him, but didn't thinking of checking for his video's on youtube; until just now. Thanks for that. MickeyPainless My venue for this would be most likely between close-up and parlor. I would say no more then 50 people. My experience with a deck of cards and entertaining, is by most accounts decent; I have room for improvement but I can hold my own. For card effects its across the board poker demonstrations, versions of cards across, locations, color changes, cards changing, packet tricks. SlipperyPete that's how I have like my smaller routines figured out; ones that go with each other. What I'm getting hung up on is the order of the smaller routines. CrestfallLyric I will have to checkout Bill Malones work, its one ive been meaning to for a while. Thanks for the suggestion of Strong Magic, I have a hard time remembering the resources right under my nose. Thank you to everyone for your input, any more would be greatful. Paul |
jekyllandhyde Regular user 200 Posts |
I'll second the Card College Lite book. Excellent resource. Another great resource is Mick Ayres' act series.
http://www.mickayreswares.com/the_act_series |
paulierc New user 20 Posts |
I guess to save further confusion, its not so much routines but entire shows/acts that I'm looking for. Again, not to steal but to study.
jekyllandhyde I just finished looking at the act series, and that is defiantly a possibility, thank you for the link. |
jimvines Regular user Brooklyn, NY 161 Posts |
One of the big things to think about is the transition between effects. If you watch a master card worker perform, usually there is no pause between effects (other than thunderous applause). In other words, the master doesn't dig around in his pockets or fish through the deck for particular cards for his next effect - the momentum just keeps rolling. You can learn a lot from stand up comics in this way too. They just roll from bit to bit, without an obvious disruption. Very hard to do this, and it's never appreciated because when done well it's not noticed
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AsL Special user 680 Posts |
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On 2011-01-03 07:26, jimvines wrote: It's really nice to see a post about routining instead of single "popular" effects. I think Jim hit the nail on the head. I'd suggest exploring other types of performances instead of card magic. Study how different performers transition from one phase of a performance to the next. Personally, I enjoy watching numerous forms of entertainment; comedians, one-man acts, stage performers, etc. Also, I'm using the word "study" loosely. If you find a performer you enjoy watching, it's not difficult for you to determine WHY you thought their performance was strong and adapt some of their techniques to your act (figuratively, not literally). All the Best, Andrew |
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