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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts |
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RobertSmith:Don't know but I'm sure it'll be the fault of, "Bush and his oil buddies." Oh I don't know. Maybe because we could then lower our reliance on the oil cartels? I know you didn't say it, but I'm so tired of hearing that it's pointless because it'll take 20 years before we have the facilities online to do the job. So will Americans still be having the same debate in another 20 years? This is America. We're the greatest, smartest and hardest working country on the entire planet. If we could put a man on the moon, we can get the oil we need out of the ground. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Why is that a better alternative than solar or wind?
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts |
I didn't say it was a better alternative to solar than wind.
We should explore all forms of energy. But be real. 250 million cars in the United States are not wind or solar powered. |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-03-13 23:23, MagicSanta wrote: Weather varies from day to day, Santa. And from night to day. I'm just saying what it is like now. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/jaxx0085 http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/47671.html
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Well of course it does but my statement that it is Winter and cold stands now doesn't it ya igloo dwelling hippy?
Robert, forget it, the anti nuke people do not care. Solar power and wind power as it exist now will not provide the power needed which the fake enviros will say either less power must be used which means they want to kill off half the population of the world since that is the most effective means of reducing power enough. I like wind power, it gives something for the bird people to complain about. |
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts |
@Santa - I hear ya.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2011-03-13 23:35, RobertSmith wrote: Quote: I know you didn't say it, but I'm so tired of hearing that it's pointless because it'll take 20 years before we have the facilities online to do the job.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
There is a big difference in my mind when we use the term energy consumption. If we are talking about cars trucks etc. in other words transportation, we would be referring to oil. However I believe if we are talking about energy in running our country such as heating our homes and running factories electric power etc I am pretty sure the main source of eneregy is coal not oil.
I used to be opposed to nuke power but I believe it is definitely the wave of the future. We all had the idea that a nuke plant was a bomb waiting to be detonated. That is just not ture. We had a disaster here in the U.S. on the infamous Three Mile Island. Know what? No deaths resulted. Cherynobl (spelling) was a real disaster but was a very poorly put together plant from all I have read and would never be tolerated here in the U.S. I keep hearing about solar power and wind power. I have to be honest I have no idea how feasible either of these are. As I have stated in past posts I am not one to run to goggle find something then post it. I rely on past experience and knowledge not someones post or blog on the net for an opinion. So my ideas on any of this are just that my own thoughts and no one elses. Also I am not advocating any of these eneregy sources just thinking baout them in what I feel is a logical way. My questions would be how feasible would wind or solar power be as an energy source? How big of an area of solar panels would one need to just run a city the size and complexity of New York? While New York is a huge city I would imagine it is a small fraction of the power consumed in the entire U.S. Are we talking about 10 square miles of solar panels in order to run a city the size of New York or are we talking a 100 square miles of panels? And as far as running the U.S. my guess, and that is all it is a guess. It would take more area than one would imagine to generate enough solar energy to power the U.S. Same applies for Wind power. How many of those windmills are needed? Just asking? How feasible are these alternate power sources? As I said before coal is the main power source here in the U.S. not oil, gas, wind nuke, or solar. However having said all of that it seems that the only reasonable answer is Nuke power. Are they dangerous? I would have to say no. Can something go wrong and an accident occur? Absoutely. Is it likely? I would again have to say no and I am sure that there are many safeguarads in place that would minimize this occurance. I have not even broached the cost factor involved in any of these alternate energy sources but I am quite sure it would be enormous. Just thinking out loud here.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
A Berkeley prof. said that for solar power to work the way the technology is now they would basically need to cover virtually the entire country with panels. My question is if it is so efficient as some believe then why is it not required on every new building done? Shouldn't skyscrapers have panels all over them? When I was working at Home Depot a guy got a bid to have his house set up for solar and the cost would have been around $120,000 and his house and yard would have been all panels and he still might need outside power as well...and that in an area with great sunny weather year round. I do think solar augments power for some things nicely but to replace all other sources? Not happening now.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
We've hit $4/gallon here in NYC.
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Sock Puppet Monkey Loyal user 235 Posts |
In Vancouver, Canada we pay about $6 per gallon and the average house price is s$792,000. The good news is that in North America we have a choice as to where we want to live.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
About $4.34 here in Calgary, Alberta. That's U.S. dollars per U.S. gallon. $6 in Vancouver? Wow. That would be over $1.5 per litre. (Unless I am badly messing up the conversion.) It's only about $1.2 per litre here.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Way past $4 a gallon here in California, landmark. I spent nearly $50 last time I filled my tank- and I've got a little Toyota Corolla that gets as good of gas milage as some hybrids.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
I paid 4.05 yesterday at 7/11 which has a $85 cut off on debt cards so I got 3/4 of a tank! I'll need to refill by Thurs and my customers will expect ME to eat the increase!
Oh whatta a fun economy! |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
The radio this morning said that it's some kind of market thing. Basically, the financial whatsits or whobajoobits on there said that with the price up, less people are buying it, so the price will drop slightly.
If that's all what it sounds like then it doesn't sound to me like the Middle East is a factor at all. What it sounds like is that the gas companies can (and do) charge whatever they feel like because they know that we don't have a lot of other options. So screw you if you live two towns away from your school and are living on a fixed income.
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