|
|
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
I originally wrote an answer to someone who posted here, but then realized that I misunderstood the topic. So, instead of answering his question, I decided to open a new topic - what constitutes a good coin ending? My feeling is that in order to finish a trick, take the plot and follow it to its logical conclusion, or throw in a kicker at the end, that makes sense but takes you the other way. Just like comedy. As long as you can satisfy the audience with something that's logical, you have done your job. If you do something at the end that makes no sense. Its not a good finish ("the last coin not only goes across, but they are now all copper" would be a good example of not finishing a trick correctly. The CORRECT way to finish that trick (just one example) would be to make the last coin go across, then introduce a copper coin, and turn the others into copper. Or, Make the coins go back where they started, or make them all vanish and go back into the purse that you originally took them out of. But producing a parrot to finish your coins across would NOT be the best way to finish a trick. Your thoughts?
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
How about producing a parrot that spits out dubloons.
It depends on the premise you initially set forth. After that you can do exactly what you said you would do. Or, conclude with something more surprising but in keeping with your premise and theme. As you said, it has to make sense. |
Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
Rule #1 the last phase should not be the weakest.
That's the problem I have with most three fly effects out there. There are some great ways to make the final coin in a standard coins across the strongest. However that is a lot more challenging with three fly.
Wes
|
Gerald Deutsch Special user 526 Posts |
I recently posted my ending for the Coins Through Table by having the last coin fall, not into my hand but, instead, into the spactator's hand held under the table using what Harry Lorayne published in Close Up Card Magic for coins instead of cards (page 138 - Johnny Benzais - "Through The Table").
|
Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
At this point I think there are three ways to end:
1. The best, and most impossible expression of the premise. The test conditions coin through table (as Gerald just described) or the last coin travelling across not to yiur hand, but to the specator's, etc. 2. A surprise that is somehow consistent with the premise. For instance, Kaps' growing chinese coins. 3. Closure. A return to the beginning, or the answer to a "question" posed at the start. I.e. my framing device used in the "Silver Circle" routine. And just when you think you've got it all figured out, someone mentions the Malini block of ice under the hat, which is arguably a coin trick (at least it started that way, for Malini and Don Alan, too) To pick a more recent example, what about the ending of "Charming Chinese Challenge?" It's strong, but it really has little to do with the main effect. Maybe there's a better ending waiting to be discovered?
Is THAT a PALMS OF STEEL 5 Banner I see? YARRRRGH! Please visit The Magic Bakery
|
mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
Quote:
On 2011-05-27 19:36, Michael Rubinstein wrote: Well there goes half of my act ;(. Mike |
magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
|
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
LOL!! Actually, if anyone knows how to finish a trick correctly, its Mike! He will introduce a copper coin, and change the others into copper. Or, he will make the coins come back up through the table. Or, he gets that last coin into a spectator's hand. Just look at the construction of every one of his tricks, and you will get an education.
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
Ryan Bliss Regular user 136 Posts |
If its a coins across, then I personally prefer a backfire of all the coins at the end. Tommy Wonder's sound subtlety I thin is the best way to do it. They HEAR the last coin clink into the awaiting hand, then a second later its completely empty and all the coins are now in the other hand.
|
Bambu Elite user California 498 Posts |
Quote:
Tommy Wonder's sound subtlety I thin is the best way to do it. They HEAR the last coin clink into the awaiting hand, then a second later its completely empty and all the coins are now in the other hand. I never heard of this subtlety before, where is described?
The Peek Project $22.50
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vj3x8le41j2pvnz/Peek%20Project%20Promo%20.jpg?dl=0 Third Eye Peek $20 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qsp0xn057mpgwm/3rd%20Eye%20Cover.jpg?dl=0 Ad your email address when ordering |
mattmagic149 Loyal user Austria 215 Posts |
I think Rian Bliss was talking about Tommy Wonder's coins across
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdjEphrI43s
Practicing is like a bank, if you don't put anything in, you won't get anything out!
|
John T Cox Veteran user 385 Posts |
Oh my I had forgotten that routine. Wonderful!!!
I think that any coins across needs something more than just finishing the coins across. The NYCM DVDs have lots of variety endings for these routines. However, I particularly like Tommy Wonder's routine as it has a nice through line and a dramatic ending.
The real magic is family!
|
Darrin Cook Special user 621 Posts |
I think a good ending needs an element of surprise.
Also, if you can end on a punchline, that's even better. If you look at Daniel Garcia's "Greed," the denomination of the bill grows increasingly larger, so there is a logical progression. Then he asks them if they would like to see it turn to a "50." Only now the bill turns not to a $50 bill, but a fifty cent piece. This is the essence of a joke, which has an unexpected meaning, or an unexpected, although logical, twist. He says "Don't get greedy!" I believe the surprise of the magic amplifies the laughs here. |
Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
Maybe not a standard coin routine, maybe not even a recognized coin routine, but Troy Hooser's "Charming Chinese Challenge" has a strong ending. And, IMO, it is a coin routine (in the view of the audience) with an extra element.
Sammy J. Teague
|
Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
An ending I've always liked is to nonchalantly switch a silver coin for a "silver-foiled" wrapped chocolate coin of the same size and then have a little snack. Haha.. Of course you have to hand the coin out for examination at some point before you eat the coin so they know it's real silver, then of course later you eat it.
Douglas Lippert
Former I.B.M. Ring #8 Secretary |
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Nothing up my sleeve... » » Endings (1 Likes) |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |