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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
We've gotten a few complaints about quality from buyers of Porper items "used" (so they say) But found they are poor copies.
After examining "several" Chinese Rip-Offs it is noted that the counterfeit instruction sheets are on paper that is about a quarter-of-an-inch SMALLER then the legit U.S. ones... It's difficult to see any difference in the printing, but I finally noticed the size discrepancy. Products copied that we have seen: Ghostly Linking Finger Rings, Just a Key, Just-IN-Case, Card Clip, Koran Prediction billet knife and Strong Box. Arrrggggg.... no wonder sales have slowed on these.
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On 2011-06-16 11:21, Pete Biro wrote: How can one tell the differences.
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Alan Wheeler Inner circle Posting since 2002 with 2038 Posts |
The knock-offs have poor quality. Often the brand name will be spelled wrong as in "Panascamic" or "Converce." The price will be lower than it should be. There will sometimes be poor English in the marketing. In this case apparently, they are using Asian-style A4 or B2 size paper instead of the conventional size we use here. The packaging may be strange. It's "used" or not from an accountable or reputable dealer.
The views and comments expressed on this post may be mere speculation and are not necessarily the opinions, values, or beliefs of Alan Wheeler.
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
Alan's got good stuff above. Look at price most of all. Mr. Porpers items are made so well and in such relative small quantities that they show and over time will hold their value. They are consider collectible by any number of folks myself included. Always check what the present retail should be. Why is the item offered, even used, so much less?
The problem of course is that this is not a perfect method of sussing out whether it's 'real' or not. Buy from folks you know who will make it right if it turns out to be a copy, etc. You are more likely to get something 'bad' from overseas, etc. It's too bad, but it's just way it is. Do not for instance buy or sell anything to or from Malaysia. Why? Over the last 8 years I've had about 20 orders from Malaysia. EVERY single one, except for one, was done on a stolen credit card! Unless they use Paypal and you get the transfer first forget it. Common sense will tell you other countries to stay away from. Crummy situation. I feel for Mr. Porper. I know the feeling. About 10 years ago a guy heavily into the magic scene in a country that will remain nameless told me that my Brad Burt Videos were the single most pirated item in his country. A whole freaking country? Yep, apparently there were three guys who would get new vids and then just reproduce them at home and give to friends. Not a third world country folks. A major English speaking Pacific Rim country..... Thankfully the guy looked both sheepish and embarrassed...I'd still rather have the money, but there you go. All best,
Brad Burt
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
A professional dealer who frequents this forum under a pseudonym recently posted an ad for a "like new" Porper Ghostly Finger Ring set for less than half of the retail selling price. I sent him a PM in which I stated that if it was indeed a genuine Porper prop and not a China knockoff, I'd take it.
Even though I questioned the extremely low price, I figured that: (a) because he was an established dealer with a highly visible community presence; and (b) because he was local, meaning that if it turned out to not be a genuine Proper prop I would know where to find him, I felt reasonably safe. When after 2-3 days I didn't receive a response, I sent him a follow-up PM advising him that in light of the fact I had not received a response, I was rescinding my offer. Only then did he send me a reply, stating that he had sold the prop prior to the receipt of my offer. I doubted the veracity of that explanation, particularly because the gentleman never added a "sold" post" to his original listing, but I elected to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I must say that I find it quite interesting that just a few weeks later this same dealer is offering another "used once" Ghostly Finger Ring set for the same unheard-of price. Perhaps my suspicions are unfounded, but I can't help but wonder about the legitimacy of these so-called "Porper" props. |
Magicray69 Veteran user Tampa Bay 369 Posts |
I saw Platt's "Blackout" half dollar size, new, on E**Y for $35, shipping included.
The description was identical to Platt's including logo. Then I noticed the item was being shipped from Thailand.
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Fábio DeRose Inner circle San Paolo, Brasile 1477 Posts |
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On 2011-06-21 11:48, Brad Burt wrote: Brazil is cnsidered a third world country, English is not its first language and, still, it's not like all brazillians are brainless monkeys. That statement is very disrespectful, IMO. Want toprotect your material? Publish a book - People have been schooled enough already to now that any DVD will be pirated. And so will some books and lecture notes, though on a lower scale. |
The great Gumbini Inner circle 3062 Posts |
Thank you Pete for the heads up.
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