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MuMu2017 New user 26 Posts |
This really bothers me a lot when I perform. Recently several magic books told me that atmosphere is fatal in magic. But how to creat Good atmosphere when performing magic? Anyone has a suggestion?
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
Where are you performing and for whom?
Wes
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MuMu2017 New user 26 Posts |
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On 2011-08-13 20:27, Wes65 wrote: I usually perform for my friends when we hangout. |
Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
If you are preforming in a bar, buy everyone a round, that usually puts them in a good mood.
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
Friends can be tough. They tend to view a friend doing magic as a challenge. they also make it hard to establish boundaries. When I perform for friends I often elevate them to test audience. I tell them I'm working on something new and I respect them and would like to get their opinion of my routine. This puts them on my team and gives them a stake in my success. It's always a better atmosphere to have the audience on your side.
Wes
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
I'm with Wes: Friends are the worst, generally, folks to do magic for. They feel they can take advantage of the situation and cause problems, because the are 'friends'. Part of the problem is there is no established manner for friends to treat a friend who does magic. I mean that.
Here is what I suggest IF you can get away with it. Don't do a lot for your buddies. Do like one new trick per time together. TRY...if possible to gently over time lay out some rules. Don't grab, I will NOT tell you how it's done, etc. From there start figuring out and learning about (frankly) manipulating folks into doing what YOU want. How do you want to set up your area of performing for instance? You might say something like: "Hey, you guys really want to see something that will blow you away? I mean totally sick? O.k., is everyone willing to do what I ask here as I set the stage so to speak? Great, look you guys sit over there and you two over....." You get the idea. Figure out what YOU want to make the magic work the best, etc. Remember, you ARE doing them a favor. Why waste time doing a trick, etc. if it's just going to look or come off bad? Here is a rule I learned a long time ago: If you are direct and act with confidence and you don't care if they do it or not? You can get folks to do what you want. They don't want to move? Great, no magic. It's a kind of negotiation: You HAVE to be willing to walk away. As you THINK about this stuff in the correct frame work and put it into action you will get better at it. Your attitude is EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't ORDER folks about. You don't talk too loud, just enough to heard. You want to give the impression that they are HELPING you and are being very cool to do so. Please and thank you go a long, long way in smoothing things over, etc. By the way depending on you and your crowd maybe you have to use a different approach. The one above is offered in a general way. Good luck,
Brad Burt
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
There are different kinds of "good" atmosphere. Sometimes you'll want people laughing. Sometimes you'll want them serious. Sometimes you'll want them passive and getting caught up in a story. Sometimes you'll want them yelling at you because they think they saw your move. Sometimes you'll want them in breathless anticipation. All of these can be harnessed and put to good use to make a strong show.
Basically, watch as many videos or magic performances as you can and figure out the atmosphere that you want to try to duplicate. Then figure out how to tailor everything you do to build that feeling, and eliminate anything that could get in the way of that feeling. Find a good role model and study what they do, and then find similar magicians and study what they do to figure out why they get similar results, and then find different magicians and study what they do to get different results. And yeah, don't perform for friends, unless you're happy to get the byplay and risk letting them set the tone. Personally, I love getting heckled, so that sort of thing doesn't bother me, but you need to be excited about the prospect of the unknown. Do whatever you can to perform for fresh audiences.
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
To be honest I just create impromptu atmosphere.
Generally, by the time (if) I approach them, I've already assessed if the person is going to be receptive to seeing magic, and a good guess as to what effect I should use to capture their attention. Most of the time I simply start doing my thing and the crowd gathers itself. I think people are inherently pre-disposed to wonder- I've been amazed time and again how it cuts across age, race and even language barriers. The wonder on their faces is a universal gift. "Atmosphere" for me, depends on the personality I'm portraying for the person- I could do my effect silently, or use patter. So, to sum up my rambling thoughts, I would say it depends on the individual.
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ThinkThurston New user 66 Posts |
Regarding friends, I agree that some friends can be troublesome and aren't worth the effort. Since I've made the decision not to perform for the ones who are not good collaborators, these troublemakers now beg me to do an effect that they heard about from another, more cooperative friend. Key point is not that I want them to beg, but instead I want them and myself to have fun.
Regarding atmosphere: The most important element of atmosphere, in my opinion, is how you are perceived by the participants. Your appearance, the sound, rhythm and tempo or your voice, your patter, etc. Most of the effects I do are for small groups which makes my appearance, etc a more influential part of the atmosphere. |
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