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...do not, to my knowledge, actually exist.

But I am hoping that someone (Donnie?!) might consider making a set in tribute to the super-cool 1941 Chrysler Thunderbolt copper-top automobile!

You want pictures?

We have pictures!

"Everything about this car, as its recent 100 point score confirms, is to the highest standards of materials, craftsmanship, historical accuracy, fit, finish and function. A dramatic statement of vision and innovation, with its brilliant copper hardtop and trim it is one of a kind, a dramatic statement of leadership in engineering, design and creativity in the 1940s, and no less a statement today."


http://stories-etc.com/1941_T-bolt.htm
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The color is fantastic! That would require a quality paint job, polished copper and a solid clear top coat.
You really have an eye e!
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That color scheme would make a memorable set of cups to be sure!
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Oh yeah that would be incredible!
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Wow, great idea!
Isn't there a chemical patina that's close to that green?
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Yes, there are chemical treatments that will patinize copper to a variety of colors: red, pink, purple, green, etc...
Some are cold, some are hot, all are tricky! I've experiment with the least hazardous of them, those that won't turn my shop into a gas chamber, and have not had much success. My girlfriend is a chemist and won't let me use the really dangerous chemicals combinations. I got very close to purple once using an ammonia and sodium (salt) solution, but it was still just a shade of purple in the copper, not the same as a painted surface. A retreatment just turning the copper brown.
But, in theory, once you get the desired patina (green, in this case), you neutralize the surface of the copper to stop the patina and then clear coat it so the color is locked in and protected from oxygen and moisture. You could just wax the surface, but that is a short-term protection barrier.

More than just the colors are inspiring on the 1941 Thunderbolt though. The lines of the fenders, the bumpers and the hood really are interesting. Very smooth and streamline.
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On 2011-08-23 09:56, Donnie Buckley wrote:
Yes, there are chemical treatments that will patinize copper to a variety of colors: red, pink, purple, green, etc...
Some are cold, some are hot, all are tricky! I've experiment with the least hazardous of them, those that won't turn my shop into a gas chamber, and have not had much success. My girlfriend is a chemist and won't let me use the really dangerous chemicals combinations. I got very close to purple once using an ammonia and sodium (salt) solution, but it was still just a shade of purple in the copper, not the same as a painted surface. A retreatment just turning the copper brown.
But, in theory, once you get the desired patina (green, in this case), you neutralize the surface of the copper to stop the patina and then clear coat it so the color is locked in and protected from oxygen and moisture. You could just wax the surface, but that is a short-term protection barrier.

More than just the colors are inspiring on the 1941 Thunderbolt though. The lines of the fenders, the bumpers and the hood really are interesting. Very smooth and streamline.

Hey Donnie,
Did I get you hooked?!
Is there a Thunderbolt Cup in your/our future?
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You can call me nuts... it’s OK.

When I saw the photo of the car, I thought of the shape of the Mendoza Cups.

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That Thunderbolt is BEAUTIFUL! Complete with a Spitfire engine! I can see how you could make some lovely cups for the C & B routine. Wow. If you make some, count on me needing a set! I might need that classic car, too!
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On 2011-09-14 19:31, Autumn Morning Star wrote:
That Thunderbolt is BEAUTIFUL! Complete with a Spitfire engine! I can see how you could make some lovely cups for the C & B routine. Wow. If you make some, count on me needing a set! I might need that classic car, too!

Hey there Superstar...let's get this momentum going!!!
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Here's another cool idea...
Check out the patina on this brass snare drum from Porkpie Drums...
http://www.porkpiedrums.com/products/snares/brasspatina.htm
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Found a video on youtube - looks like it came in black too.
nice car - fun headlights and great lines. I bet they would sell if remade using carbon fiber and a few modern safety features discreetly hidden.
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I could see you in one of those Jon.
With a white fedora.
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