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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2012-01-18 10:07, Marlin1894 wrote: Lol. Contrary to popular belief, I use Wikipedia and Google far less than you might imagine.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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Lol. Contrary to popular belief, I use Wikipedia and Google far less than you might imagine. lol! Just pulling your leg. Couldn't resist. |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Mixed feeling about Ali. His treatment of Frazier, after Frazier supported him and even offered financial assistance, was truly disgusting.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
I agree , Chessman. Definitely a top three heavyweight of all time, but resorted to some very underhanded tactics.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2012-01-17 16:27, S2000magician wrote: Yea but magicians were afraid to call him on exposure for fear of a but whipping.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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panlives Inner circle 2087 Posts |
I posted this in the Tannen's Memories thread a while back:
"It was somewhere around the early '80s, I think...couldn't have been much past ‘82 or '83...but that is sketchy. I was a really geeky older teen freak. When the fellow manning the shop heard I was from a small town in Quebec, he brought me to see the view from his back office, which looked down on or near Times Square. I think back now and realize how I actually "missed" the deeper experience. How could I have known it was all so ephemeral, soon to fade away into the annals of history? Without advance buzz, Muhammad Ali walked in and the place went dead silent. He was like human electricity. I have been in the presence of a few personalities. No one came close to the charisma of Ali. In the realm of Forteana, we use a term called "The OZ effect." Ali made you glow; you felt both real and unreal, as if you were simultaneously inside a movie and watching that same movie unfold. Then, he looked at me! The champ looked at me and he smiled! I was born in '64, the year Ali won the Heavyweight Championship of the World. In the '70s, that strange decade of eclectic Superstars (Bruce Lee, the new/ "old" Elvis, Evel Knievel, Farrah Fawcett-Majors, etc., etc.), Ali transcended them all. He was a God. I practically floated down to the street after he left...I was in the presence of a Supernova. Ali...magical charisma. My Tannen’s memory...thanks for the self-indulgence."
"Is there any point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
"To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time." "The dog did nothing in the night-time." "That was the curious incident," remarked Sherlock Holmes. |
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
Dag, Lobo, that was great! Wonder if anyone has ever come out with a video of all these fights? Along my walk down memory lane are several times (big screen TV) that I barely got to my seat before the fight was over. Thanks for the memories...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
He used to come into Magic Island in Newport Beach all the time. I stole his watch twice. He was a wonderful gentleman in person, and one of the few celebrities that made me feel silly and fanlike to be around.
His hands are HUGE, and his wrists are like two by fours. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Yes it is terrible what Ali did to Joe Frazier. He made him a very, very rich man, and his poor family lives in palatial mansions today because of Ali's taunting Joe. The story I heard was Ali visited Joe at his house and said "you trash talk me, I'll trash talk you, and we will both do well (Ali didn't actually say DO WELL, but his words are too impolite for me to repeat)
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Frazier took it a bit far after Ali got the Palsey, IMO.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Ali apologized (decades later) and said that Frazier was right to be bitter. I'm an Ali fan, but his comments about Frazier were beyond decent, and beyond what's acceptable to promote a fight (e.g. characterizing Frazier as an Uncle Tom). Ali knew it, and he finally admitted it.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On 2012-01-25 13:43, Al Angello wrote: That must be why Frazier was bitter toward Ali, then. Doesn't appear as if Frazier was interested in accepting Ali's proposition, either. More to life than money - a lot more. Calling Joe the white man's fighter, a gorilla...
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3616 Posts |
One thing that always bothered me was when the Olympic Committee decided to re-issue the Olympic Gold medal to Ali. Of course everyone knows that Ali threw his Gold Medal in the river. That just didn't sit right with me. After all the stories we hear of former Gold medal winners who were forced to sell their medals to put food on the table, or because they had family medical bills, they were not "re-issued" a Gold Medal. But the guy who throws his away gets another one. The same guy who refused to fight for his country.
A great boxer, yes. A great man, no. |
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