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Gerry Walkowski Inner circle 1450 Posts |
Mike,
I don't think my response to Patrick was harsh at all, given that this joke was used at a children's function. (I'll admit I'm assuming that since this is being posted in the "little darlings" section.) Look I'm not the censor police. Do whatever you want and whatever you feel is right, as your material is a reflection upon you and your character. However, while that particular joke might be ideal for an adult crowd or a street show, I do question whether that joke is appropriate for children. While others may remain silent on this issue, just answer this one question for me. In your opinion, at what point do you feel that an entertainer has crossed the line? Is it a dirty diaper on your head, a tiolet plunger on a child's head, or the bra trick? How about words such as fart, booger or snot? How about sexual innuendos? Or, is it anything goes in today's world as long as you get a cheap laugh? Operators are standing by. Thanks, Gerry |
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mike storz Inner circle Orange, CT 1353 Posts |
"Some people have no class whatsoever"
Seems harsh to me. |
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
Ha gerry
my take on this joke is. I don't see any thing wrong with it.a clean innocent joke. todd |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
I side with Gerry about that joke. I'm not a fan of bathroom humour or crude humour in kids and family shows. I won't use it in my own shows, and I get really uncomfortable when I see it in other shows.
- Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
Never mind all this, I'm still waiting to find out how to keep magicians in suspense.
The suspense is killing me...oh hang on a second...I see what he did there... |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
I have laughed at that joke but I would never use it myself. I wouldn't want to be in a family crowd when I heard it.
Although I lean towards his opinion and I am glad someone said something, Gerry Walkowski came on too strong. Magic Patrick seemed a little over defensive and also crossed my "interest in reading this kind of exchange" level. No kidding, "The little Darlings" forum seems a little contentious at times. I know Magic Patrick and others get laughs with this kind of material and will continue to do so. I doubt Gerry and many others including myself will start using this material. We don't need to argue about it. Why not share our experiences and opinions in a civil manner? -Mary Mowder |
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mike storz Inner circle Orange, CT 1353 Posts |
Nicely said Mary!
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
My take on the joke: It has to do with attitude, timing and experience.
Two people can use the same line and one gets belly laughs, and the other gets cold stares. A couple months ago I did a family party for the filthy rich at a private, old money, gentleman's club. Intimidating place to say the least. I used toilet paper, mouth coils, had a spectator put something in their mouth, insulted one of the wives, wouldn't give one of the kids his socks back, used bathroom humor, and I didn't forget my fart joke. I am smart enough not to do my entire adult act when kids are present but I'm not about to take out what I find funny and appropriate. Immediately after the show, the Chairman walked up, shook my hand, said I was the best they'd ever had at entertaining both adults and kids and immediately booked me for the next year. He said most just focus on the kids and don't keep the kids' attention for long. I never care about being told "you were best". We all know (or should) not to believe our own press... but I do appreciate getting huge laughs and getting re-booked. That, I'll remember. I'm not changing my show. If they don't like me, they can book someone else. I don't have a problem with that. So did we find out how to keep a magician in suspense? I've been googling since I saw that post. George? Anyway, I'm gonna go see if Howie apologized to Destiny yet... cya
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Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
All,
Mary was absolutely right. I should have been more civil but when someone says I have no class then it makes me a little upset. I apologize for the attack back on the individual who made the comment. I will continue to use the joke because it is funny and it works for me. The fact that I get other shows from my perfromances (not saying that it is because of the joke) shows that it is not as offensive as people may believe. Anyway, I will listen to my audience before I listen to someone that doesn't know how long he has been performing for. Patrick |
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mr shiney Loyal user 266 Posts |
I agree patrick cos your shows would soon dry up if you were upsetting a lot of the parents
My dog puppet trumps in my show during the rap song at the end! It works for me and my bookings I would not do your joke patrick but I see nothing wrong with you doing what ever you feel ok with And your bookings will tell you if your doing somthing wrong. As for a joke (one that some will not like, live and let live) and I do this when Im getting a good vib on some of the bigger hoilday park show I do when a kid comes up "who are you here with" Kid "mum and dad" me " is that your dad wow he looks like a film star............. Have you seen shrek!" "and your mums a babe.... Have you seen that film!" I don't REALLY DO THE BABE JOKE! But I do the sherk thing sometimes and have had mum phone up to book me and tell me I called there husband shrek! So if it works for you and your fully booked go for it! |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Shrek! I like it! Glad it's working for you.
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