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hypn New user 79 Posts |
Hi All,
Need some help. Watched the magicians TV show where they did a hypnotic induction (or at least that's what they presented it as). The volunteer was given gum and what ever the person behind the volunteer ate the volunteer would also start tasting - climax of the routine was the desert (dog food). I have seen this effect before, hesitant to suggest Paul Daniels or the South African magician Martino. Can anybody give me any history on the effect, the name of the routine etc. I think it's a incredibly effective pseudo hypnosis effect. I am also looking for a mentalism effect that I purchased years ago - 4 people draw random images on 4 boards - the boards are mixed and the hypnotist does a mentalism analysis and determines who drew which picture. The effect was for sale but I no longer see it or I am doing the wrong search. I saw a mind reader doing the same effect but needed to slip the pictures into envelopes as a extra way to hind them from him (or assist with identification) but the older version of the effect was so clean. Can anybody help with a name of the effect or a store still selling them. My first purchase of the effect was a pre-made sketch pad ready for use. Appreciate any advice Andre Any comments welcome - any flamers will be ripped to shreds
Andre The Hilarious Hypnotist
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
I think you need to read/buy some basic book like the corinda to learn a minimum about what you're talking about.
The hypnotist does a mentalism analysis and determine who draw which picture? Where is the hypnosis in a psychometry routine? Buy some book, learn the basic, forget gimmick ( hypnotist uses gimmick looks srange to me anyway)
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hypn New user 79 Posts |
Hi Parmenion
Maybe I was not clear enough in my post - I had this effect before, it was purchased as a pre-made drawing pad and was most definitely gimmicked. Please do not confuse a lack of posts as a sign of a beginner but merely a professional who chooses not to post in a number of discussions especially when others are already using these routines and might know them better. Once again I need if anybody can help with the name of the effect and if they have seen it for sale recently. Thanks Andre
Andre The Hilarious Hypnotist
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stijnhommes Special user 568 Posts |
I saw the show too and I have no clue how they did it, but I'm pretty sure there was no hypnotism involved. If there was such a thing as the hypnotism act, Derren Brown would be locked up for ages by now.
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hypn New user 79 Posts |
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On 2012-02-07 03:21, stijnhommes wrote: The Hypnosis act does indeed excists - it is the 1952 act on the performance of stage hypnosis and the amended hypnosis act of 1997. The act was brought into place after a visiting stage hypnotist caused a acidental injury to a volunteer. A hypnotist by the name of Peter Casson then went about proving that one can hypnotise people via the television. The 1997 law was a altered law after a further investigation after a death of a person. Either way the act does not allow hypnosis inductions in totallity (edited inductions are allowed) and then also includes a agreement for lisensing when performing in a town as a stage hypnotist. Having said that the first mentalism routine has been performed in the past without it being presented as a stage hypnosis act
Andre The Hilarious Hypnotist
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
The effect you're looking for it's not linked with pseudo hypnosis at all but it's mentalism.
All is matter of angle of presentation but it has definively nothing to do with hypnosis/induction. Now, I'm sorry if I took you as beginner but what yo describes in the second part of you post is called psychometry as you didn't called it by is name I deduced you lack of knowledge it's why I adviced you to buy some classic mentalisme book. take a look to the Cassidy's list.
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stijnhommes Special user 568 Posts |
Quote: Thanks hypn. You learn something new every day. I wonder how Derren gets away with it, because I've seen full inductions from him. And how exactly does it work if you buy a product that teaches hypnosis? Are those exempt?
On 2012-02-07 03:38, hypn wrote: |
PhiltheBear New user Southampton, UK 72 Posts |
The Hypnosis Act specifically refers to public performances so anything that teaches hypnosis is exempt. It's largely concerned with the fact that in order to present a 'hypnosis' show (of any kind) the venue has to obtain a licence.
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hypn New user 79 Posts |
Appologies for the delay in responding - "Philthebear" is correct in stating that the venue is responsible for getting a licence. At the same time the hypnotist needs to have some form of accredation normally obtained by groups such as "FESH - dederation of ethical stage hypnotists"
This does however not mean that stage hypnotists can't perform. For the most parts certain districts has a blanket ban while others consider it just another permit. Unfortunely events in 1997 brought stage hypnosis into the mainly because of the success of Paul Mckenna bringing about a heap of self proclaimed stage hypnotists and of course the odd legal prosecution. Derren Brown is incredibly clever in not referring to Hypnosis - he uses a number of psycological buz words for the phenomenon associated wit the hypnosis but stays clear of doing visual and clear inductions. Something else to note is that certain suggestions are also not allowed - age regression and displays that could cause bodily harm - a example of this is placing a person between two chairs and then standing on them (a favourite routine in the USA). A quick search of the New York Times archives going back to the early 1900's will have you thinking twice about doing this trick. t is after all only a form of Pseudo Hypnosis simular to what I am referring to above. Before I go off topic I hope this helps a little ;-)
Andre The Hilarious Hypnotist
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hypn New user 79 Posts |
Just a quick Thank you for all the help from all those who posted possible solution - I appreciate the help
Andre The Hilarious Hypnotist
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