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Jim Sparx
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I failed at everything - the clipboard was wider at the top than the bottom, the metal cylinder was not round, the door buzzer would not buzz and the pictures on the graph paper were full of erasure marks. Not a good place to meet girls. I did better in band with the trombone and a girl who snorted when she laughed, named Porky. I wasn't exactly the catch of the day...
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I learned don't put your soldering iron in your back pocket so you can free your hand to hold something else.
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I never had anyone teach me woodworking either until I started working in the scene shop in college (aka cheap labor, although we did get paid). The shop foreman was retired from the movie industry, where he had been a carpenter and prop maker, so he knew his stuff. He was a cantankerous crabby old fart with a sense of humor, and he did teach me some things I still remember.
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Mr. Gidry, Woodshop at John Burrows JH, Los Angeles CA. 1968.
"You must scribe your line before you cut. Again.....scribe your line before you cut!".
We were issued one 4x4 120 grit piece at the start of the semester and had to present it, used to the nub, to be granted another.

Sandcasting, making a hacksaw, tool box, enameling on copper in metalshop, Mr. Fisk.

Wood lath turning was particularly fun.
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Mr. Heck, Oak Ridge TN Junior High shop class.

Learning to use a band saw. Made a wooden stool that turned out pretty good.

Made various acrylic projects, we had an engraver.

The shop was cold this time of year, we wore coats.
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My Wood shop teacher had a paddle made from a 3 foot piece of pine with air holes drilled in it if you stepped out of line you had to bend over and touch your toes.One day he was showing us how to stain a board telling us not to get the rag so wet the stain runs out of it down your arm to your elbow and onto the concrete floor because the stain won't come out of the concrete as he lifted the rag out of the can of stain it ran down his rag down his arm and onto the concrete I don't know why but I just started clapping and saying good job as everyone else stood there in total silence the next think I heard was "I want to see that clown after class".I had to bend over and touch my toes.Don't think he could get away with that now days.


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Measure twice, cut three or four times!
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Funny, the only thing I remember from shop was nicking my knuckle on a drill press following a safety lecture. Don't even remember what we were making.....where do those memories go?
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Ever since I was 4 years old I wanted to be a carpenter so I took every shop class I could. In highschool I took carpentry at a vocational school. When I graduated I joined the Carpenters union(32 years ago). The magic bug hit me in 1994. I recently did many upgrades to my shop. The larger planer, jointer and dust collection system have the sound that brings me back to those old school shop days.
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On 2012-03-22 16:12, Leo Reynolds Jr wrote:
My Wood shop teacher had a paddle made from a 3 foot piece of pine with air holes drilled in it if you stepped out of line you had to bend over and touch your toes.One day he was showing us how to stain a board telling us not to get the rag so wet the stain runs out of it down your arm to your elbow and onto the concrete floor because the stain won't come out of the concrete as he lifted the rag out of the can of stain it ran down his rag down his arm and onto the concrete I don't know why but I just started clapping and saying good job as everyone else stood there in total silence the next think I heard was "I want to see that clown after class".I had to bend over and touch my toes.Don't think he could get away with that now days.



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You mean, thwacking someone with a paddle for having the NERVE to point out that the emperor is, in fact, not WEARING any clothes? Smile

No, really, I do get your point, just noting that this is EXACTLY the sort of pedantic, beaureaucratic buffoonery that would swear so many would-be woodworkers, etc., off manual arts for good.

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On 2012-03-22 23:58, Stanyon wrote:
Measure twice, cut three or four times!

Measure once, cut twice, cuss three times.
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Michael Baker
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Measure once, cut twice, cuss three times. Have a cup of coffee. Go buy more wood.

If you don't know, don't be afraid to ask. There are no stupid questions. (There are though, many inquisitive idiots.)

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed, at least you've succeeded at being a redundant idiot.
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On 2012-03-22 16:12, Leo Reynolds Jr wrote:
My Wood shop teacher had a paddle made from a 3 foot piece of pine with air holes drilled in it if you stepped out of line you had to bend over and touch your toes.


My sixth grad teacher had one of those hanging over his chalkboard (remember chalkboards...?). He called it "The Board of Education."

The main thing I remember about woodshop in 1984 was that Mr. Toenjoeust would confiscate any project that resembled a pipe (ie, for the devilweed). Sadly, that actually kept him rather busy. He probably could have opened a well-stocked head shop as a retirement job.
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Jim Sparx
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On 2012-04-18 14:52, Michael Baker wrote:
Measure once, cut twice, cuss three times. Have a cup of coffee. Go buy more wood.

If you don't know, don't be afraid to ask. There are no stupid questions. (There are though, many inquisitive idiots.)

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed, at least you've succeeded at being a redundant idiot.

This thread needs a revival since I am building and back porch/deck/ramp (for my soon to be crippled wife and her hip surgery) to the house.
Especially noticed is the measure more than one time and cut once. Difficult when you are trying to hold a 2x6x10', over your head, in place to see if its gonna fit before/after you cut. Yes I know about resting it on nails at one end while trying to hammer at the other end, and I know about tape measures, and that it takes skill to run a Skil saw. It's still too short or too long.
But my biggest peeve is driving 75 miles into town to Lowes, getting everything I need and three quarters of the way back remembering you forgot something that was essential in the next step.
Even worse is the careful selection of treated lumber for twist and turns, and it is absolutely straight, inline, online and then laying it down on the frame thinking this is going to be the floor and discovering overnight the 12 footer has suddenly developed a bow. Yes I know the bow side goes up, but I swear it was straight yesterday. *&^%# (@#^%!X&.
And that's what I think about doing outdoor projects in 100 degree heat.
#@&^
Michael Baker
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Carpenter's prayer: If the board is going to be cut wrong, please make it too long.

Cures for your pet peeves:

1) Stop buying lumber at Lowes.

2) Old brains are like old pockets. They develop holes that things fall out of. Make a list and take it with you.

3) Stop buying lumber at Lowes.

4) When your wife's safety relies on good carpentry, don't take your concerns to a magicians' forum, unless you plan to surprise her with a trap door.

5) Stop buying lumber at Lowes.
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By neatly stacking material up on blocks you can avoid the material waste. I have built hundreds of homes and my pet peave is messy stacked lumber piles. If you pull up to a job and see piles of lumber stacked like spaghetti its a red flag to the quality of the work being done.
Jim Sparx
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The same lumber distributor supplies Lowes and Home Depot and other discount lumber supplies in this part of Texas.
I get a veterans discount and a senior discount which adds up to almost 15%. Pretty substantial for someone that lives on SS and a small veterans check. I don't get that discount at "real" lumber stores.
I do make a list, but sometimes I forget to put things on the list.
This thread is titled: What do you remember from shop class? I thought my mini frustration was related to that, even though it is in a magicians forum, and was started by someone else.
If I was rich, I certainly would invest in redwood lumber, at a cost of $26 per piece for a 2x6x8 piece of lumber. But I'm not, so I have to settle for what I can afford.
Lumber is expensive here because we live in the middle of the desert and it is shipped in from lumber mills far away, California for the redwood, middle America for the rest.
Michael Baker
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Settle down. Most of my post was tongue-in-cheek. But, I will say that discount lumber is no discount if you are ending up with warped wood that you can't use for the project intended. I've had the same thing happen with lumber from Lowes. I bought a few 4x4s to add on to a deck, and one warped like a longbow (serious arc), and another twisted like a corkscrew. Couldn't use either one.

Sometimes lumber will warp if one side can dry faster than the other.
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Stickeling your lumber and letting it dry out of the sun may help. The moisture content in HD and Lowes lumber is often quite high. Wait until it dries before you attempt to use it. The other option is to cut it too long and wait for it to shrink - it will!
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