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Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
All,
I have been getting a lot of requests lately for this age group. I do not do this age group so I refer to others but I am thinking that I could and started to come up with a line up and wanted to pass this by you guys. All the tricks I am listing are staples in my corporate and adult shows, meaning that they are solid effects and the performance is there. My question to you is if this is appropriate for 10 to 16 year olds. They are not in any particular order as I will routine them together eventually but only if they are appropriate. Please let me know. Bottled Up (card in a snapple bottle effect) Jumbo Sidekick 2 Professors Nightmare (fiber Optic style) Cardiographic Lemon Game Gene Anderson Newspaper tear Mental Epic (murder mystery style) Arm Chopper Growing/Shrinking Head Book Test (Word to your Mother) Chattering teeth Box Burn Notice Celebrity Smartass Ring in Racketball Sponge Ball routine Thanks all! Patrick |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
It is not the trick, it is the presentation. It depends on your personality and character. The Coloring Book can be performed for adults if it is presented right. For kids you must be silly and funny to entertain them. Do not talk over their heads using hard to understand words or phrases.
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Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
Mike,
Thank you. Great advice. Patrick |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
For the mentalism effects you have above, keep them short for kids. Children's attention span is usually short.
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MickNZ Special user Auckland, New Zealand 576 Posts |
Do you have a show that you do for adults?
Keep it fun, let the kids be kids, and just do that. |
jimhlou Inner circle 3698 Posts |
This is a tough age to perform for. I think your line-up is spot on. Kids this age also like "smash and stab" tricks.
Jim |
Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
Jim,
Thank you. Now, watch I don't get any more inquiries now that I am ready. LOL!!!! Patrick |
Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
If the crowd is small enough I try to steer them towards Close-Up.
I have Stand-Up that plays well for Adults but this group is really afraid of being embarrassed by a "Kiddie" Magician so Close-Up eliminates that worry (after a few flourishes, my "look" is not what they are usually expecting.). -Mary Mowder |
Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On 2012-03-20 20:45, Dynamike wrote: I agree with Dynamike, for kids between the ages of three and eight you must be silly and funny to entertain them. I have noticed that the older kids that have attended the show I perform for younger kids have commented it was hokey; they are a very hard group to perform for. |
harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Middle to high school is one of my favorite audiences both for magic and vent.
Music (school friendly) can add to the mix. I mix heavy sleight of hand with self working card stuff, along with some coin stuff....Three fly...coins across.... I used to end with a jumbo coin. Now I just spot something at the venue for a finale. Way in the past (back when he had hair, said Nigel) I used a shot put ball for a ending. Ropes also work well for me with this (and most ages). Harris traveling a bit lighter these days..(after losing 40 pounds..said Nigel.."he's not heavy, he's my ventriloquist
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
Ed_Millis Inner circle Yuma, AZ 2292 Posts |
In this age group, it's easy for them to mob up and try to take control of the show. Your first pice has to be quick, visual, and impossible. Your card to bottle sounds like the ticket. The murder mystery plot for Mental Epic also sounds good if you can make the story line interesting and engaging.
Watch out for the "off the chain" kids that will shout bad answers to your questions or delilberately try to mess with you. And if they get bored, run for cover! Ed |
harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Some of the kids answers might be right. You might have seen the Big Bang episode which ended in a magic show for kids. Some of the kids were searching on their phones.
How you handle things is as important as your magical skills. Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
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On 2012-03-22 10:41, Harris wrote: LOL! Funny. Thanks for the info. So I am sensing that close up may work better for the smaller groups. Great input all. Thanks. |
jolyonjenkins Inner circle United Kingdom 1181 Posts |
I would say that for 11-16 year olds the most important thing is not to patronise them. They will think magic is for little kids and you clearly need to distinguish yourself from that kind of performer, so still well clear of the silly stuff. I would recommend using strong magic.
Jolyon Jenkins
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Do your adult show. Never forget that 11 to 16 year old kids are a lot smarter than adults, and they will cut you no breaks.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
Thanks all. Now I just need a show to test it out.
Patrick |
TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I have not found any particular age difficult to perform for.
The youngest ones naturally have a shorter attention span but other than that... We do have one thing going for us... "EVERYBODY LOVES TO BE ENTERTAINED" They're there, BEGGING FOR IT! So entertain them. Doing a magic trick is not the same as entertaining them. Ask yourself if you could you walk in and entertain a group with nothing? Could ya? Couldja? Huh? I think anyone that's an actual entertainer definitely could. If you're a newbie or a hack... probably not. The top 10 reasons people will stop calling your show Hokey (or similar) are: 10. Your show is actually funny 9. You're actually good at sleight-of-hand. (Lifting a lid or turning a crank can only be "so" impressive. Like --> ||<-- much) 8. You have comedy elements throughout your act , running gags, callbacks, bits of business, physical comedy, surprises, ... 7. You actually do have an act. I couldn't do my act backwards. It wouldn't make sense. Would yours? 6. You've done your act for a good long while instead of constantly pursuing the "top 5 tricks" like it's an easter-egg hunt 5. You do material that suits all ages instead of thinking kids need kiddy trix only. 4. You're doing your own presentations that match your character 3. You don't have a "golly-gee-wilickers boys and girls, what trick should we do next?" personality (unless you're supremely talented) 2. You know how to go off script (do you even have a script that YOU wrote or did it come folded up inside the box when you bought the trick) and interact, ad-lib, joke, and command an audience like a real entertainer (because you are a real entertainer, or should be) 1. You're not just a rabbit salesman that drives up in an ice-cream truck full of trix for kids.
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts |
Quote: Excellent! Though it would be darn near impossible to add anything to your already well-crafted Top-Ten, I would just like to high-light your number 2. Thanks for a refreshing and accurate assessment, Frank!On 2012-03-23 16:31, Frank Starsini wrote: The top 10 reasons people will stop calling your show Hokey (or similar) are: |
Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
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On 2012-03-23 16:31, Frank Starsini wrote: Wow! Better than the 10 commandments. Thanks for sharing. I am going to put my show against this list. Unfortunately I do not have a routine that last the whole show but I put the tricks in a very logical order and have a routine for each. I have been doing the above tricks in a show for adults since 2007. I do understand the meaning being an entertainer and not someone who just does the trick. I ran into this problem once when my jumbo sidekick did not work. I didn't know how to make it seem amazing to just pull out the card with a whole in it. Then I was taught that it is about the confidence in knowing that you own the stage no matter what you are doing. This I am still and always will be learning. Thanks again. Patrick |
Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
A very complete list Frank.
I know there are a lot of those number 3 guys. LOL
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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