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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
Jamy's routine can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsm6o20SLps It's maybe the best one coin flurry I have seen.
It's not hard to figure out all the moves, but it would be nice to read the whole desription of the effect.... Does anyone know if this is published anywhere? |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
? Little bit of Roth, lotta Latta. Probably some Dingle in there too if you're doing your homework. Folks were exploring the Vernon book on Leipzig and the Slow Motion Coin Vanish had come back into fashion. Very 1970s NY.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
Latta teaches the slow motion one hand coin vanish on the New York Coin Magic Seminar DVD series. Its hidden as an Easter Egg on vol 2,3, or 4 (but not too difficult to find). He taught it to Swiss. His method is not taught anywhere else, although it may be in Minch's book on Latta, when and if that ever sees the light of day.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
The best is always relative...
I've seen this by Jamy before and it is really well done, nice routine for sure and very well presented. But as you say here, "that I've seen" is the key. I do bits and pieces of this all the time and there are other very good One Coin sets out there that involves a lot of newer moves and you won't find them back in the 70s where JT is speaking of, like today's Ponta The Smith, doubt if those guys could've even imagined a Ponta back then, though they indeed provided the building blocks for him now. I remember when I first started seeing more I saw David Stone's One Coin Routine and wondered how anything could be any better than that. Yep, it's all relative my friend. Anyway, Jamy's routine is a good one for sure in a lot of important ways. If you're given to studying this stuff then perhaps you can track down some of the stuff JT speaks of but if not and you're a lot more interested in doing the magic (and I'm sure you are) then seek out Jamy for the routine, check his web site, etc. it indeed might be on DVD or something. Or you can learn important parts of it from Doc's wonderful NYC Coin Guys DVDs and build from there. As you say, you can probably work out what's happening well enough on your own. Lot's to learn and enjoy.
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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
What I like so much about this routine, is how well everything blends together with his patter. This isn't a magician fooler or anything...Just very solid routining all around!
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Akal Singh New user 87 Posts |
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On 2012-04-16 07:20, Mb217 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btFqdE-xidA A finger tip production, a couple ROV vanishes, a change over, the pinch vanish, a covert toss from hand to hand, a Ramsay Subtlety for good measure, and a Spellbound change? Sorry, but some of this stuff was conceivable in the EIGHTEEN-seventies (Edwin Sachs, Sleight of Hand, 1877), the grand finale in the 1940s (Stars of Magic: Spellbound, 1946), and almost all the rest in the 1950s (Bobo 1952)!! What's new is old, and it's certainly not necessarily better! I quite like the Swiss routine over Ponta's. And it has the added benefit of being performable to more than a sigle camera lense! Not sure where to find it, though. Perhaps in one of Swiss's MANY lecture notes. |
Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Ak, you raise some good points as to where all this stuff comes from but everything comes from somewhere, so in a way it's really no big deal where it originated first or last for that matter. What's important is how Jamy has fashioned it into a great routine. I happen to like his routine better than Ponta's too but realize that a lot of what Ponta does is unique, a bit of his style is not from 19th and 20th Century, it is a new way breaking through. Also his work is presented differently, without patter, etc. It all makes a difference. It's up to each person to like what they like and that's fine. No doubt that Ponta can do all of Jamy did, you illustrated excellently what it is and how long it's been done...Not the same thing trying to do Ponta's work I'd say. But in general I agree with your view.
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jearnshaw New user 60 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla......ao97oxDQ
Just thought I would post Ponta doing Ponta instead of someone else. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
A* The OP asked about Jamy's routine.
Since that routine is not in print AFAIK, I cited Jamy's sources from when he put the routine together. No idea why anyone brought PTS into the discussion. Agreed Sachs's book is a trove. -jj
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
"No idea why anyone brought PTS into the discussion."
No one believes that as you have an idea about everything JT, nearly 25,000 posts says so quite clearly. Why??? Because PTS has one of the unique OCRs out there to date, that's why. In that way, it is relative as to the post initially made here that included "...It's maybe the best one coin flurry I have seen." That could invite the reader to comparison as to engaging deeper discussion. In fact that's exactly what you did in bringing to the table here where you've seen such things from the past as a point of reference as to clear similarities. I simply chose a more immediate point of comparison as to reference. Problem?
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Akal Singh
Yes what is old (and sometimes very old) is new again. I love going through old books and manuscripts to find gems. I also can learn from relatively new classic performers. Old school meets new school ....who knows what is next? Harris
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
Ponta's is very good but As was pointed out his is all derivative as well. He does it very very very well. Using the moves in different ways? Somewhat. Entirely New? No.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Yes, and I think it was me that alluded to that.
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On 2012-04-16 07:20, Mb217 wrote: I also said that everything comes from somewhere but that does not mean that newness can not grow from what was and be recognized as that. Ponta is an example of this and you don't even have to look closely to see it, it is evident. There is no disrespect as to beginnings but life is about progress, not so more importantly where you start but where you end up. Stairs and escalators are the same thing basically but the guy that thought to make stairs move only has to pay homage to the original stair makers and then step into his own new landing as to things. The true differences are clear enough and can be defined as "new" enough. Y'know, escalators aren't "entirely" different from stairs and perhaps one might not recognize that until they have to walk or ride up 20 flights or so. Hey, if you come across a different way to get from here to there, can it be considered a a "new" way to get there, especially if it wasn't used quite that way before? And why does something have to be "entirely new" to be new at all? I'm just asking? Sounds like a lot of conservative old guard stuff to me. Finally, your use RS here of not 1, not 2 but 3 refrains of "very" is the difference between the stairs and the escalator really, at least within more allowing perspectives.
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