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brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
I'm wanting to produce a giant 6 foot flagstaff, but not wanting to use the top-hat method (I love Flagtastick by Magic Ian, but is a bit small for my needs for my finale) for the finale of a 25-minute show. I don't mind being b**y-l**d*d for the entire show. Wondering if anyone could please recommend any DVDs or pre-made holders which will explain the best way to b**y-l**d and release a giant flagstaff (with one hand) so it's not obvious that it is b**y l**d*d, is secured properly throughout the show and so it doesn't get tangled and extends properly upon release, with a silk fountain as misdirection happening in the other hand? Thanks so much for any help.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
These are your only choices for a flag staff production.
http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Colla......oryId=-1 http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Colla......oryId=-1 Abbott's have been the manufacturer of Flag Staff for over 60 years. You can use this with a body load, but most steal it from a table or container with proper misdirection. At one time Abbott's also made a 6 foot Glag Staff, so you could inquire with them if they can provide this for you if the above references are to large for you needs. |
brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
Hi The Great Hegblini,
Thank you so much for your reply. Sorry, I should have explained, I already own a 6 foot flagstaff, but took a look at the ones at Abbotts too which look very nice too. I was more-so looking for body load (sorry, wasn't sure if that was OK to say without **) techniques and ways to load the flagstaff onto your person so it comes out smoothly and not prematurely, perhaps with some type of a holder made specifically for such purpose - I'd searched the internet and couldn't find any links, and if anyone has anywhere they can point me I'd be most grateful. Thanks again, |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I have to say, that body load gimmicks (outside of card and ball holders) or apparatus is not something sold in magic. You really have to take a look at your cloths and table set up and work it into your situation. This allows you to do it your way, then you can't say, I like it - but - it don't fit my setup.
If you wear a jacket, then of course the old umbrella steal from the back is one way. Easy to make a bag something like a billiard ball holder, only larger, to grab it from. You could also make a bag hang from a strap around your shoulder at the armpit, this would allow you to us the pendulum principle for the steal. The trick that is called "This" will also work for such a production. Show 3 silks, shake each one out to show they are only large handkerchief, then pull out the Flagstaff. There, I gave you a few ideas to get you started thinking about a way to produce a Flagstaff. |
hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Look at the old Karl Germaine methods of loading his fans and flags. The back load is ok if you are able to properly secure it and get to it to make the release. I've a couple of ideas for back holders but only you would be able to determine if they would work for you. Not knowing the style in which you work( movement and all) it is hard to make recommendations.
Probably would be best for you to write me via my email at the bottom and we could discuss things further. JNeal uses something like the "This" production for his production of two giant flagstaffs. But there again not everyone can move like JNeal. I know I certainly can't. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
I keep my flagstaff wrapped in a non-gimmicked silk, on top of my table. (It is not on top of my table for the whole show... just for the necessary time.) I've also had it under the table top, on the top shelf, and got it from there. Seven years ago, I wrote a detailed post about how I prepared the flag in the silk. I can provide a link if you can't find it with a simple search of the "Smooth as silk" area.
Another option I've seen, is a bag. I think that Duane Laflin might have sold a bag with his flags years ago. One end of it had a flap, that was held in place by velcro or a snap. It was inverted, the flap opened, and then the flag dropped out the bottom into the hand. I hope I'm not revealing too much out in the open. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much for your suggestions. The Great Hegblini, I have used the umbrella holsters successfully for the umbrellas, but can't work out how to use them for the flagstaff, securing the flag itself for easy release and not tearing the flag off the staff. I've used "This" to produce other long items, and is an excellent production item (I've never seen JNeal perform with "This", so haven't got a point of reference for what else is possible with "This), but I'm wanting a faster more movement based production for a big ending, which is where the silk fountain comes in - I'm planning to use the silk fountain in my left hand walking from left to right on stage, showing it close-up and then have spring flowers pop out of the centre as an ending to the fountain, and as the flowers pop out, produce the flagstaff with the right hand - it's just getting it from my body (like an umbrella) is what I've got to figure out. Thanks Donald for the suggestion about folding the flag - I'll try this on the weekend and let you know how I go. Richard, thanks also, I'll send you an email to see what you have in the way of back holders. Thanks so much to you all. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Try a dove pocket for a body load. Some umbrellas work in them too.
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brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
Thanks for the suggestion Bob. Since I've read this, I've done a bit of reading on dove pockets and seen a couple of pictures on google images and it seems there are a few different ones out there, like the Shimada one, the MagicbySax one, Peter White's, Andy Amyx's and Tony Clarks (among others) and yours which I'd like to learn more if it can help with the flagstaff idea - I'll do a bit more looking send you a pm Bob. Many thanks, Brett.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Brett,
I sent you an email. Essentially anything less than 4" around will work. The pocket itself is 10" long and 5" wide flat but has pleats to allow it to open up and then fold flat empty. It can be sewn in your coat but after four decades of using it, I still just pin them in. (It will also work for a bottle of beer!) Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- It is very different from my Egg Dropper. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Here is a release idea by Ali Bongo, using a hook and eye set from a fabric shop, configure the set to be used with a pin. Attache a line to the top of the flagstaff, when the action to produce and extend the staff is initiated, the pins are pulled out and the flag opens. So you would have something like 3 or 4 pins in a line along the folded flag. When the 1st joint extends, the pins are pulled. This should work, but you must have the exact length for the pins spaced exactly, so they are all pulled at the same time.
I was going to send you picture of the set up but you do not provide email information. |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I had mine in a duplicate tube for my Multiplying Bottles, simple switch offstage coming out for a bow. See at http://www.petebiro.com under videos,scroll down to bottle routine.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
Hi Bill, thanks so much for your suggestion and my apologies for the delay in my return. It would be great to please see a picture of what you're referring to. Please feel free to email me via brettsaunders@gmail.com and I've also sent you a pm. Pete, I watched your video on the rollerskates - now that is some serious skill being able to perform and skate! Great finale to the bottle production sequence (great by the way, but the audio didn't sync properly so I couldn't quite hear what was going on). I will need to have everything on me due to the nature of the storytelling so a body-load will have to be the way I do the production. Thanks so much to everyone for the input.
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brettsaunders Regular user Australia 108 Posts |
Thanks so much for your email Bob and suggestion of the dove holder. I would like to purchase one of your dove pockets and I sent you an email but I don't think it went through to you so I'll send a pm. Kindest regards, Brett.
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