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Andre Hagen Inner circle 1432 Posts |
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On 2012-06-26 17:57, SpellbinderEntertainment wrote: I'm sure you're correct Walt. I was attempting to find a set (gimmicked and ungimmicked) and this is all I could find. I have a set that has served well from Top Hat Magic, but apparently it is not available anymore. Andre
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein
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ThatsCool Elite user 424 Posts |
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On 2012-06-27 02:25, dragonash wrote: I agree. It looks like a brick. Not sure why everyone is against a 14kt or Sterling band. They will sure last forever. Does anyone make a ring out of say plated sterling silver? Which could be plated gold. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I don't think they would gold plate silver, but you can take your pick of any of these.
http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......d=112088 http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......_id=3875 http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......_id=3878 http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......s_id=954 http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......_id=4654 http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3148 There are more on the Internet at even higher prices, to bad I misplaced the web references. |
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
I have an original Himber Towering (A Signet Style Ring with a red Ruby Stone) which I bought from Himber in his apartment in the Essex House in NYC in 1961. I did not buy the matching ungaffed ring and I've lamented over that for a long time.
The MAIN point of the Himber Ring Routine is that you link together BORROWED rings! As soon as you openly use your own ring you have lost 90% of the impact of this effect. I wrote up my routine for it in my Column in the September, 2012 issue of MUM Magazine. What the audience appears to see is that I use only two borrowed rings which are magically linked together. Each of the spectators get to see their ring up close while it's linked to the other one and confirms that it is their ring. I borrow a gentleman's ring and a lady's ring. (This is possible because the Himber Towering looks like it could be a man's ring, or a ladies ring. And of course, I don't use any stooges for this effect. Dennis "Denny" Loomis
Itinerant Montebank
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
I'm not sure that the Himber Rings were originally sold for the effect of linking the performer's ring to a spectator's ring. My memory is not perfect, but I believe that the early Himber ads always said that you linked together borrowed Finger Rings. I believe the idea of doing this was given to Himber by Perci Diaconis. Is that right Pete Biro?
Dennis "Denny" Loomis
Itinerant Montebank
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Persi was working for Richard Himber and MUCH of Himber's stuff came from Persi. He told me that in a letter from Fawcett Ross there was a mention of Freddy Fah, in an ice show in France, borrowing a ring from a woman in the audience and linking it on to a linking ring. This gave Persi the idea to create the ring, now known as a Himber ring. Persi collaborated with Willy Schneider, a magician and jewelry manufacturer in New York to make the rings.
I don't have access to my books right now, but my memory says the original routine of linking three borrowed(?) spectator's rings came from Al Koran.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
Pete, I believe you're right about the Al Koran credit. He's the originator as far as I know.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
There was book published years ago on many of the Himber items, it was made of original instructions sheets. The original instruction sheet was only one page, and it only told how the ring worked and to link it to another ring. Only one ring. Not necessarily a borrowed ring, either.
I was somewhat disappointed in the instructions. As when Himber's high priced solid gold items were being offered, you did not get more of what is possible with the props. I believe Pete is correct, Al Koran is the originator of the Linking of 3 Finger Rings. It was more of magicians not being as bold as Al Koran and his very simple methods, that they believed the Himber rings may be the answer when you are not Al Koran performing the trick. Or they could have just been looking for a different way to accomplish, trying to improve an already perfect gimmick in the 1st place. In my opinion, when the new gimmicks are compared to the original, the original is still clearer, faster, and looks more impossible when handled per Al Koran's instructions and methods. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
It is all detailed in my book "The Real Secret of the Linking Rings." My favorite is Lawrence O's simple routine, and Orson Welles'.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
In addition to Pete's book, I seriously reccomend reading Ron Wilson's version of this effect in The Uncanny Scott and Roger Klause's version in In Concert.
After years of being dissatisfied with cheap versions of the Himber Ring that ALWAYS broke, I purchased the Biro/Porper AmazeRing and also David Regal's Linking Finger Ring Project.... The quality if finely-made Magic props (and their accompanying routines) remains long after the price is forgotten. I've been working for months on my own presentation and, slowly, but surely, I'm getting there.... In my personal opinion, this trick, using BORROWED rings from the audience, is one of the STRONGEST pieces of stage or platform Magic that can be done. |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
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On 2013-04-07 11:45, Pete Biro wrote: Thank you Pete. Since I'm not selling my impromptu routine performed with three completely borrowed finger rings. Any interested performer with common sense and curiosity should better purchase Pete's book "The Real Secret of the Linking Rings". It's really the bible on the linking rings and I would have sold my routine, without any problem for more than the price of his book. The reader not only gets that routine but a gold mine of information on all kinds of linking ring routines and techniques from stage size to extremely close up. The number of contributing stars - each one much more well known than myself- will make your head spin (and I don't have an economical interest in this publication) As Dennis Loomis states: in the linking finger rings all the impact of the effect resides in the fact that all the rings are borrowed (and therefore fully examinable) andend up linked without any possible doubt... with no stooge involved... but you will have to write your own script with a story involving a protagonist, a smarter antagonist, and a happy outcome, rehearse it and "act it" to render justice to the effect.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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