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oliversmith
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Hi everyone,

I have recently been working on a way to (Jerry Sadowitz magazine) a card so that a spectator can shuffle the pack and the performer can know exactly where the card is. I was wondering if anyone has been this method below before, thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8qe3nG8cHk
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I started to use it before Sadwitz was born. I believe the use of ***** is very old.

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Hideo,

I think that he was using Jerry's magazine, The Crimp, as a way to not say ***** Smile
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I've been using crimp work for the last ten years or so, and to the best of my knowledge it was in use even before that!!! But I might be mistaken. Smile
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I was trying to avoid saying the word crimp but it doesn't matter now Smile. Anyway, what do you guys think of the idea?
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On 2012-07-14 06:01, oliversmith wrote:
I was trying to avoid saying the word crimp but it doesn't matter now Smile. Anyway, what do you guys think of the idea?


That it is a great and tried and true method that has been around for ages and perhaps so old that it is new at least for some.

Namaste,
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On 2012-07-14 06:01, oliversmith wrote:
I was trying to avoid saying the word crimp but it doesn't matter now Smile. Anyway, what do you guys think of the idea?


That it is a great and tried and true method that has been around for ages and perhaps so old that it is new at least for some.



Namaste,
Vlad


Thanks Vlad. I know crimping a card is not in anyway new but I was hoping the way in which I was doing it is, cheers.
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Oliver -- It sounds like the question is whether your method of putting the crimp in is original (I can't be sure, but that looks like what you're doing in the video). I have seen a variety of methods of putting in a breather on the fly before. There are a couple of really useful ones out there. This reminds me of the version displaying the card between the hands to put in the crimp.

(Please forgive me if I'm concentrating on a different part of it than you were asking about.)
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Daryl has a similar method in which he crimps lower right corner of the card when he riffle the deck with left hand. He crimps the corner downward, not upward as the OP.

If you crimp that corner upward, crimping action is visible to audience. But if you crimp that corner downward as Daryl, crimping action is invisible to audience.

Besides, you can make bigger crimp by Daryl's method so that you can avoid fumbling action when you cut the deck at the crimp.

Daryl's method is written in his "For Your Entertainment Pleasure" (1982), page 34.

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On 2012-07-18 19:12, Hideo Kato wrote:
Daryl has a similar method in which he crimps lower right corner of the card when he riffle the deck with left hand. He crimps the corner downward, not upward as the OP.

If you crimp that corner upward, crimping action is visible to audience. But if you crimp that corner downward as Daryl, crimping action is invisible to audience.

Besides, you can make bigger crimp by Daryl's method so that you can avoid fumbling action when you cut the deck at the crimp.

Daryl's method is written in his "For Your Entertainment Pleasure" (1982), page 34.

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Thank you very much for the information and I will check it out, cheers.
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Your handling appears to resemble "The Gamblers' Crimp" in Expert Card Technique (1940).

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The difference in oliversmith-san's method and Gambler's Crimp is angle of second finger.
Crimp is made by pushing up second finger in Gambler's Crimp.

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