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magicinsight Inner circle 4305 Posts 
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Greg,
Thank you very much for your help and comments. I will certainly purchase Mr. Marks' "Mind Warp" even though Key Warp does seem similar to the key bending routine in Archangel. Best regards, MI P.S. Although I will take your advice and get the book, I doubt if anyone is going to give me their house keys if I am naked. But hey...you never know.
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts
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I've only had this happen once, but about 2 weeks ago I had a spectator say "oh yeah I used to do that when I was a kid, you just **** **** *** **** and press" regarding the Richard Key Warper.
The response was about the same to doing the 21 card trick or a "one-ahead" mind reading billet trick ending with the choice between 18 or 81, heh... Like it was the simplest kids trick in the world. I don't know what he was like as a kid, but watch out for these freaks of nature 
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts
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On 2004-08-10 11:29, magicinsight wrote: I've never heard of the Archangel method, but I do know Richard came up with it in the 70s so I believe he was the first to put it out. Greg
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Banachek V.I.P. Houston 1086 Posts
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Richard's method is my favorite. It can be done anytime anywhere and I never ever have a problem finding the gimmick on the spectator themselves.
Richard's method has creeped into many others work and even seen print with no credit at all. That is a shame. As a result, I asked Richard if I could show it on my DVD's. Thankfully and kindly he agreed. To me, Richard's method is far superior in the fact the gimmick is invisible and not something you can get caught with or have to ditch in some way. I would suggest getting Richard's book mind warp for more of his great thinking.
In thoughts and Friendship
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Sven Rygh Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts
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On 2004-08-10 11:29, magicinsight wrote: Absolutely!! I have seen pretty many key bends, and up to now and to me, nothing beats Key Warper. Quote:
Again, without going into specifics, is the Key Warp similar in concept to the key bending effect in Archangel? Even though I have seen the add at Hocus Pocus' (I guess) I know nothing about it. Sven
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magicinsight Inner circle 4305 Posts
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If it is good enough for Banachek.... I also agree with Banachek that if the key bending method used in the Archangel routine is the exact same method as originated by Richard Mark and detailed in his book, "Mind Warp', then it is a shame that it was used without Mr. Mark's permission and that Mr. Mark was not given credit for it in the Archangel's manuscript. If a person has the ingenuity to create a practical and original new concept, that person's idea should not be stolen and should be given full and complete credit for it if it is used by someone else.
Best regards, MI
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Banachek V.I.P. Houston 1086 Posts
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Just want to make it clear, I did not say it was the same and did not even know it might be questioned as such till the post by MI. But if it is, that is indeed a shame. I have seen Richards method used in other books and shown with no credit.
In thoughts and Friendship
Banachek Campus Performer of the Year two years in a row Year 2000 Campus Novelty Act PEA Creativity Award Recipient http://www.banachek.com |
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Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 479 Posts
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Banachek, did Randi happen upon this method independently of Richard Mark?
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Banachek V.I.P. Houston 1086 Posts
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Steve, you would have to ask Randi about that, I have no clue.
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Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 479 Posts
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O.K., thanks, I'll email him and ask. As far as I know Randi first published it in his 1975 book "The Magic of Uri Geller", does anyone here know when Richard first released it?
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts
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On 2003-10-17 14:46, magickdabid--uk wrote: It takes a lot of energy to bend metal and I am usually too tired to repeat the effect let alone bend it back.
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